'The Interview': Jenna Ortega Is Still Recovering From Childhood Stardom

The actress talks to Lulu Garcia-Navarro about learning to protect herself and the hard lessons of early fame. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.