The Real War Dogs Story Is Worse Than The Movie - David Packouz | A Stern Talk

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David Packouz went from massage therapist to arms dealer… to facing 355 years in prison.

In this episode on Stern Talk, we sit down with David Packouz, the real-life figure portrayed by Miles Teller in War Dogs, to unpack the full story behind the headlines — the Chinese ammo, the 71 acts of fraud, the federal raid, the plea deal, and the moment he realized his business partner might burn every bridge in sight.

We break down:

⚪How a $298M Pentagon contract was won by two guys in their early 20s

⚪The real reason they repackaged Chinese ammunition

⚪What it’s like hearing “you’re facing 355 years in prison”

⚪How the government builds a fraud case

⚪The difference between hustling and crossing the line

⚪And what he learned about partnerships, greed, and long-term reputation

David also explains how he rebuilt his life — launching Singular Sound, inventing the BeatBuddy, and later co-founding War Dogs Academy to teach others how to legally win government contracts.

CHAPTERS

0:00 - Intro

1:03 - Meeting David Packouz and his early days

3:56 - Meeting Efraim and seeing $1.8 million

9:27 - Why the government spends so much money

12:10 - What is the War Dogs Academy?

15:00 - From being broke to becoming millionaires

19:45 - How students learn to win contracts

23:09 - AD BREAK 1: ANDY CARROL

24:15 - How the Rolling Stone article became a movie

30:54 - Real life vs. the Hollywood movie 'War Dogs'

37:41 - The day the federal agents raided the office

43:15 - The secret truth about the Chinese ammo

50:13 - Facing 355 years in prison

55:56 - AD BREAK 2: BILL O'RIELLY

57:00 - Getting arrested for holding a gun

1:15:14 - Making a $60 million profit margin

1:33:51 - What happened after the court case

1:39:11 - Efraim’s crazy prison stories

1:55:11 - The story of the Scorpion and the Frog

2:04:08 - Important life lessons about trust

2:17:41 - Growing up in an Orthodox Jewish home

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