‘More Optimistic Than I’ve Ever Been’: On Nature Security and Growth with Tony Juniper

‘More Optimistic Than I’ve Ever Been’: On Nature Security and Growth with Tony Juniper

The energy transition is no longer a distant goal. It is being accelerated by real-world pressures. In this conversation, veteran activist and campaigner Tony Juniper says “I’m more optimistic than I’ve ever been for some time.” He explains that climate change is now much more than an environmental issue. It is “very evidently a question of financial stability, of food security, of geopolitical stability.”As global instability reshapes priorities, the debate around energy is shifting. “Replacing fossil fuels with fossil fuels is not really the best choice.” So “the best choice is to displace fossil fuels with renewables.” Speaking with Nik Gowing, Juniper sets out why this moment is driving a more decisive move towards clean energy and why he is optimistic despite some “truly catastrophic realities”. The direction is clear. The challenge is pace.📄 Full transcript available on our website.🎧 Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations with leaders challenging the status quo.🌐 Learn more about Thinking the Unthinkable here: https://thinkunthink.org/ 🎧 Listen to our podcast on Spotify here: https://shorturl.at/onLxw🎧 Or Apple podcasts here: https://shorturl.at/xS9B7o.

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Reporting Climate: The Urgent Fight Against Misinformation with Marek Pruszewicz

Reporting Climate: The Urgent Fight Against Misinformation with Marek Pruszewicz

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Facing Unthinkables: The Urgent Need to Confront New Extremes with David Shukman

Facing Unthinkables: The Urgent Need to Confront New Extremes with David Shukman

Can we successfully adapt to a changing climate before disaster strikes? David Shukman warns that "this is happening with a speed and on a scale that no one is ready for."  David Shukman, former BBC S...

16 Syys 23min

A Tough Gig: But 100,000 Directors Won't Back Down on Climate with Julie Baddeley

A Tough Gig: But 100,000 Directors Won't Back Down on Climate with Julie Baddeley

The positive direction of travel must be recognised and celebrated.  Julie Baddeley, Chair of the Chapter Zero Alliance, returns to Thinking the Unthinkable to catch up with Nik Gowing.  Since Chapter...

9 Syys 21min

The Business Case For Energy Transition Has Never Been Stronger ...So Why Is it Not Sticking?

The Business Case For Energy Transition Has Never Been Stronger ...So Why Is it Not Sticking?

Why does sustainability still sometimes sound like a cost when the business case for it is becoming increasingly clear? Sally Uren, Chief Acceleration Officer at Forum for the Future and its former CE...

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Confronting the Climate Threat to Island Existence with Karen-Mae Hill

Confronting the Climate Threat to Island Existence with Karen-Mae Hill

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‘The Blueprint Is Broken’: Why Businesses Must Change with Aron Cramer

‘The Blueprint Is Broken’: Why Businesses Must Change with Aron Cramer

The model that shaped sustainable business for decades is no longer working. In this conversation, Aron Cramer explains why “the blueprint… is no longer fit for purpose.”  Speaking with TTU’s Nik Gowi...

6 Touko 24min

‘The Unthinkable Is Here’: What Leaders Must Do Now with Kylie Porter

‘The Unthinkable Is Here’: What Leaders Must Do Now with Kylie Porter

Thinking the unthinkable is not a theoretical exercise. It is a leadership necessity. And most important it is achievable.  In this conversation, Kylie Porter, a CEO from northern Queensland in Austra...

8 Huhti 22min

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