.NET 012: F# with Phillip Carter
Adventures in .NET29 Loka 2019

.NET 012: F# with Phillip Carter

In this episode of Adventures in .NET the panel interviews Phillip Carter. Phillip works on the .NET team. His primary focus is F# and F# tooling. Phillip starts off by explaining that F# is a functional programming language, whereas C# is an object-oriented language. Phillip explains how F# is a nice way for those who want to do functional programming to do so with a full ecosystem and quality tools and libraries. Phillip explains how F# is used in .NET. Some prefer to use only F# but the major mix and match F# and C#. He shares projects he has done mixing and matching F# and C#, explaining how he did and the other methods used to use both F# and C#. The panel discusses the popularity of F# and where it is most well known. Phillip shares the two biggest sites where F# sharp is used are Jet and Walmart e-commerce, their backends are build using an F# microservice. He explains that a lot of financial institutions use F# in their backends as it is good for number crunching. The panel considers the growth of F# since .NET Core 2.0 was released. After .NET Core 2.0 was released F# usage spiked, F# microservices and open source projects became much more common. The panel asks Phillip about what Blazor means for F#. He explains that in the past, some people are really into Fable. This tool takes F# syntax trees into JavaScript syntax trees. Currently, the web assembly is starting to heat up now that Blazor is here. F# can plug directly into the Blazor runtime making it a pretty viable alternative. The panel considers the mental hurdles required when switching from C# to F#. Phillip explains how that switch may be easier for some than for others. Using an example of building a web service, Phillip explains how someone approaches a process or a problem will determine how easily someone can transition from C# to F#. He elaborates, explaining that if a developer is really used to object-oriented programming and it’s patterns it may be more difficult to move to F#. The panel shares some of its views on F#, wondering if it isn’t easier to learn for those who are new to programming. Phillip considers their views and explaining that even though they can’t prove it they have also seen this possibility. At the Ignite conference, they are coming out with a preview Jupiter Notebook tooling, putting C# and F# on top and integrating it into the Jupiter ecosystem. Phillip admits they have been wondering if they might not be able to reach the non or secondary programmers more easily with F#. F# may be more familiar to those who only have a simple background in Python they picked up in college. He explains how overwhelming C# can be to someone who has never seen anything like it before. Phillip compares the syntax of C# and F#, explaining that they are very different. F# is more similar to Python than to C#. F# is white space significant and uses type inferences. He explains how these differences might trip up someone who is familiar with C#. C# and F# have a few similarities like you can still dot into something just like in C#. The panel wonders what kind of cooperation is seen between the F# and C# teams at Microsoft. Phillip explains that they work very closely and sharing a few examples. He worked on nullable reference types in C# 8.0. He explains that they have a mindset, they are all Microsoft in the end and what C# and F# to interoperate as best they can. F# is currently on version 4.7, which was released with C# 8.0. He shares some of the changes made to F# with this latest version. Including, core library fixes, performance fixes and the cleaning up of little syntactical quirks. He explains that is a culmination of a lot of minor changes to improve the language. Phillip shares what’s coming in F# 5.0 which will hopefully be released with the .NET 5.0 release. The episode ends as Phillip shares some resources for getting started with F#. He encourages everyone to give it a try. He promises that even if you decide its not for you, it will help you see your code in new ways. Panelists
  • Shawn Clabough
  • Wade Gausden
  • Wai Liu
Guest
  • Phillip Carter
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Blazor In Action - .NET 131 (Part 2)

Blazor In Action - .NET 131 (Part 2)

Chris Sainty returns to the podcast to discuss the release of his book, Blazor in Action, and more Blazor goodness. We begin this episode talking about writing and publishing a technical book including what it took to get the book over the finish line. There are a lot of moving parts to a technical book especially if the book contains code samples. Next we get into specific questions about Blazor like hosted vs standalone, razor files or code behind and more. We even get into a discussion about MediatR and how it can benefit your codebase whether it is a Blazor application or not. What do you like or dislike most about Blazor? Have you read Chris Sainty's book? Let us know on Twitter at @dotnet_Podcast. SponsorsTop End DevsRaygun | Click here to get started on your free 14-day trialCoaching | Top End DevsLinks- Top End DevsBlazor in ActionChris SaintyPicksCaleb- Pokémon™ Legends: Arceus for Nintendo Switch - Nintendo Official Site Chris- GOWOD - Mobility FirstShawn- Temporary email services like temp-mail.org or https://10minutemail.com/Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/adventures-in-net/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/adventures-in-net--6102015/support.

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Blazor In Action - .NET 130 (Part 1)

Blazor In Action - .NET 130 (Part 1)

Chris Sainty returns to the podcast to discuss the release of his book, Blazor in Action, and more Blazor goodness. We begin this episode talking about writing and publishing a technical book including what it took to get the book over the finish line. There are a lot of moving parts to a technical book especially if the book contains code samples. Next we get into specific questions about Blazor like hosted vs standalone, razor files or code behind and more. We even get into a discussion about MediatR and how it can benefit your codebase whether it is a Blazor application or not. What do you like or dislike most about Blazor? Have you read Chris Sainty's book? Let us know on Twitter at @dotnet_Podcast. SponsorsTop End DevsCoaching | Top End DevsLinks- Top End DevsBlazor in ActionChris SaintyPicksCaleb- Pokémon™ Legends: Arceus for Nintendo Switch - Nintendo Official Site Chris- GOWOD - Mobility FirstShawn- Temporary email services like temp-mail.org or https://10minutemail.com/Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/adventures-in-net/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/adventures-in-net--6102015/support.

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Learning Playwright - .NET 129

Learning Playwright - .NET 129

In this episode, Caleb and Shawn discuss Playwright, an end-to-end testing framework for web apps. There are several established end-to-end testing frameworks including Selenium and Cypress but Playwright was new to us. Shawn found it while doing research for an app that he is currently working on so we decided to talk about what he has learned using Playwright so far. The framework supports multiple languages including TypeScript, JavaScript, Python and .NET. There is a lot of intelligence under the hood including auto-wait and web-first assertions. Listen in and see if Playwright could be the end-to-end testing framework that you use on your next project. Have you used Playwright before? Let us know your experience on Twitter at @dotnet_Podcast. SponsorsTop End DevsRaygun | Click here to get started on your free 14-day trialCoaching | Top End DevsLinksPlaywrightPicksCaleb- Western Digital NAS HDShawn- Looping artist with incredible range SHOCKS the Coaches on The Voice!Shawn- PlaywrightSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/adventures-in-net/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/adventures-in-net--6102015/support.

2 Elo 202229min

Finding Your Focus - .NET 128

Finding Your Focus - .NET 128

This is a republished episode of .NET 017 In this episode of Adventures in .NET the panel discusses the tools and techniques they use to find their focus while developing. They begin by discussing their personal obstacles when trying to focus on their work. Some of the panelists suffer from ADD, ADHD, and OCD, they explain the challenges these problems bring to their work. They also discuss the flow state good focus can bring and what can be accomplished during that time of deep work.  The first tool they discuss that helps them focus is music. Music can be a distraction if it is the wrong music. They discuss the types of music that help them focus. The benefits of classical music, music without words and even rock music are considered by the panel.  Next, the panel discusses todo lists. There are many different todo list apps, the panel considers how to find the ones for you. Wai Liu advocates for the todo list and explains how he rates the completion of his todo list and evaluates it before creating his list for the next week. The panel discusses productivity apps and shares ideas of what would make a great productivity app.  They consider the merits of meditation. They all agree that meditation has many great benefits but is also quite difficult to master. Wai shares his experience at a meditation retreat. The panel discusses procrastination and distractions both at the work office and at the home office. They consider techniques and resources that help them focus. SponsorsTop End DevsCoaching | Top End Devs LinksPomodoro TechniqueLinkedIn: Wai LiuFacebook: Adventures in .NETTwitter: @dotNET_PodcastPicksCaleb- Find Your CalmCaleb- Find your focus.Caleb- Deep WorkCaleb- IndistractableShawn- Pwop StudiosShawn- Ice hockeyWai- Nintendo SwitchSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/adventures-in-net/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/adventures-in-net--6102015/support.

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Blazor Wasm Hosted or Standalone? - .NET 127

Blazor Wasm Hosted or Standalone? - .NET 127

Today's episode has more Blazor goodness. The panelists discuss the differences that one little check box can make when creating a new Blazor Wasm project. Did you know that you can create a Blazor Wasm project with different setups? What are the differences? Does it change your workflow? Caleb has used both options and there are pros and cons to each one. Have you created a Blazor Wasm project? Do you prefer Hosted or Standalone? Let us know on Twitter at @dotnet_Podcast. SponsorsTop End DevsRaygun | Click here to get started on your free 14-day trialCoaching | Top End DevsLinksASP.NET Core Blazor hosting modelsPicksCaleb- PrimalShawn- Programming Fonts - Test DriveShawn- Dev FontsWai- Waterpik Cordless Advanced Water Flosser For Teeth, Gums, Braces, Dental CareSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/adventures-in-net/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/adventures-in-net--6102015/support.

19 Heinä 202224min

Complexities of Open Source - .NET 126

Complexities of Open Source - .NET 126

Dennis Doomen returns to the podcast to talk with us about open source projects. We discuss some of the latest milestones for Fluent Assertions and some of the positives and negatives of managing a popular open source project. While companies and developers benefit from open source projects they don't always view the open source community the same way. Dennis shares his thoughts on the subject and Shawn and Caleb talk about how their companies use open source. We also talk about different ways to sponsor an open source project and some of the communities that can grow up around an open source project. What do you think about open source? Have you contributed to an open source project either financially or by adding to the project directly? Let us know on Twitter at @dotnet_Podcast. SponsorsTop End DevsCoaching | Top End DevsLinksFluent Assertions.NET FoundationDennis "The Continuous Improver" DoomenCodeRushedSpecification by ExampleNuGet Gallery | Dennis DoomenGithub: dennisdoomenTwitter: @ddoomenPicksCaleb- Last EpochDennis- DNN SoftwareDennis- Rider: The Cross-Platform .NET IDE from JetBrainsDennis- Buy Horizon Zero DawnShawn- 18V ONE+ HP BRUSHLESS DETHATCHER/AERATOR KIT - RYOBI ToolsSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/adventures-in-net/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/adventures-in-net--6102015/support.

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Generating Class Diagrams with code - .NET 125

Generating Class Diagrams with code - .NET 125

Class Diagrams are a very great way to document your system, inspect and understand the relationships between the classes and plan refactorings and disseminate knowledge inside the team. In this episode, Edson Moisinho discusses using PlantUML - an open-source tool that allows generating many types of UML diagrams from plain text. SponsorsTop End DevsRaygun | Click here to get started on your free 14-day trialCoaching | Top End DevsLinksGenerating Class Diagrams for .Net Core | by Edson Moisinho | Better Programming 2plantuml/plantumlpierre3/PlantUmlClassDiagramGeneratorEdson Moisinho - MediumEdson Moisinho - LinkedInPicksEdson- God of War | PlayStation (US)Shawn- Interceptor (2022) - IMDbSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/adventures-in-net/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/adventures-in-net--6102015/support.

5 Heinä 202232min

Blazor Environment Quirks - .NET 124

Blazor Environment Quirks - .NET 124

All frameworks have their quirks. As a framework matures some of the quirks go away but every framework seems to have one or two things that you have to work around. When writing demo or proof of concept code you may not run into these quirks. They only surface when you need to deploy your code in another environment. In this episode the panelists discuss a Blazor quirk when working with different environments. Blazor does not handle appsettings.json or ASPNETCORE_ENVIRONMENT like other parts of .NET. Listen to this episode to find out more. What is the weirdest quirk you have had to deal with writing code? Let us know on Twitter at @dotnet_Podcast. SponsorsTop End DevsCoaching | Top End DevsLinksBlazor WASM not loading appsettings.{environment}.json in Azure App ServicesPicksCaleb- Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity for Nintendo Switch - NintendoShawn- Fast and reliable end-to-end testing for modern web apps | Playwright .NETWai- Mario Strikers™: Battle League for Nintendo Switch - NintendoSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/adventures-in-net/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/adventures-in-net--6102015/support.

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