25: The Prophet Can Never Lead Us Astray | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

25: The Prophet Can Never Lead Us Astray | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

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We have been raised on this claim as a central tenet of our church culture. Where did it come from? How should we understand it? What does it mean for us today?

Links:

Official Declaration 1 Original Speech, Monday, October 6, 1890, Salt Lake City, Utah. Reported in Deseret Evening News, October 11, 1890, p. 2 https://newspapers.lib.utah.edu/details?id=1542458

"Priesthood" https://archive.org/details/MStarVol14/page/n599/mode/2up

Brigham Young, January 12, 1862, Journal of Discourses, Volume 9, page 150

Brigham Young, Deseret News, June 8, 1873

Brigham Young, August 29, 1852, Journal of Discourses Volume 6, Page 282

Brigham Young, August 1, 1852, Journal of Discourses Volume 1, Page 361

Brigham Young, June 18, 1855, Journal of Discourses Volume 11, Page 128

Heber C. Kimball, October 12, 1856, Journal of Discourses Volume 5, Page 203

Brigham Young, July 6, 1862, Journal of Discourses Volume 9, Page 322

Brigham Young, August 19, 1866, Journal of Discourses Volume 11, Pages 268-269

Brigham Young, August 31, 1873, Journal of Discourses Volume 16, Pages 166-167

John Taylor, April 7, 1866, Journal of Discourses Volume 11, Pages 221-224

Wilford Woodruff, December 12, 1869, Journal of Discourses Volume 13, Page 166

Orson Pratt, October 7, 1874, Journal of Discourses Volume 17, Page 224

John Taylor, August 20th, 1882, Journal of Discourses Volume 23, Pages 240-241

Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 578

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15: Janeen Brady: Her Life, Her Music, Her Polygamist Heritage | 132 Problems: Mormon Polygamy

15: Janeen Brady: Her Life, Her Music, Her Polygamist Heritage | 132 Problems: Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Composer Janeen Brady (I Lived in Heaven, I'm a Mormon, When I Grow Up I Want to be a Mother) has written hundreds of songs for children, sold over 15 million albums, and raised a large family. She is also only two generations removed from LDS polygamy. In this fascinating interview she shares her history, insights, wisdom and experiences. We also discuss some of the painful stories from her polygamist ancestors, particularly that of Ann Mariah Bowen Call. You won’t want to miss this one.

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14: The Angel with the Drawn / Flaming Sword | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

14: The Angel with the Drawn / Flaming Sword | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Many still believe this story and use it as a justification for Joseph’s polygamy. Where did this story come from? And does it hold up to scrutiny and what we know of God and the gospel of Jesus Christ? Notes: Gospel topic essay: Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo Brian Hales’s list of accounts (bottom of the essay): Encouraging Joseph Smith to Practice Plural Marriage: The Accounts of the Angel with a Drawn Sword Agency references: D&C 76:27, D&C 29:36, Moses 4:3, 2 Nephi 2:26-27, Alma 12:23&26, Acts 26:14, Mosiah 27:13, Alma 14:10-11, Moses 6:31-35, Exodus 4:1-17, Luke 22:41-44, Elder Hales talk: Agency: Essential to the Plan of Life Marriage references: Matthew 19:5-6, 1 Corinthians 11:11, Ephesians 5:25, D&C 42:22, D&C 38:37, Matthew 1:20-21 * (I believe I said D&C 28:37 in the video. 38:27 is the correct reference) Correction: This story was actually about my 8th baby. My first 6 were at the hospital, 7th was a homebirth, and babies 8-11 were unassisted homebirths.

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13: Our Unique Baptismal Covenants | (Off Topic) -- 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

13: Our Unique Baptismal Covenants | (Off Topic) -- 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems A very personal episode. Our unique baptismal covenants are more important, inspired, and specific than I ever knew. They deserve our focus. As we come to better understand them and their inspired order, we can learn to better implement them and fulfill the covenants we make as disciples of Christ. (A sidetrack from our usual topic -- next week we'll get back to polygamy.) Scriptures: Mosiah 18: 5-10 Links: (Elder Anderson @ 3:45) https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/broadcasts/watch/general-conference-leadership-training/2015/04?lang=eng&vid=4775931419001

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12: Jacob's Polygamy | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

12: Jacob's Polygamy | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems We look in depth at the story of Jacob and his wives, Leah, Rachel, Bilhah, and Zilpah. What were their experiences? Is polygamy a blessing or a curse? Why was Jacob a polygamist? And what was the real reason Jacob (and Abraham) were not condemned for their polygamy? Scriptures: Genesis 28 - 33 Genesis 9:8, D&C 107 (Evidence against primogeniture) Mosiah 3:19 Links: Hebrew word tsarah: https://biblehub.com/hebrew/6869.htm MANDRAKES - they are REAL and grown in Oxford!

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11: Verse 1 -- Preconceptions and Concubines |132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

11: Verse 1 -- Preconceptions and Concubines |132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems An in depth investigation into the serious problems that show up in the very first verse of Section 132. Scriptures: Judges 19 Helaman 11:23 Links: https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/concubine https://historytogo.utah.gov/blacks-utah-history/ https://www.mormonchronicle.com/testimony-of-william-clayton/

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10: Was Moses a Polygamist? | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

10: Was Moses a Polygamist? | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems D&C Section 132 claims that Moses was a polygamist. We’ll study why people make that claim and investigate whether or not it is true. This episode surprised me! So much to learn! Scriptures: Exodus 2, 4, 6, 18,19 Numbers 10-12

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9: Isaac's Polygamy? | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

9: Isaac's Polygamy? | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Section 132 claims that Isaac was a polygamist. We'll investigate that claim and try to understand where it might have come from. Scriptures used: Genesis 23 - 27

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8: Isaiah 4:1 (2 Nephi 14:1) | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

8: Isaiah 4:1 (2 Nephi 14:1) | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Isaiah prophesied that "seven women will take hold of one man." What does that mean? Is it proof that polygamy is of God and is in our future? Or could it possibly have a much more profound and important meaning that we could and should pay attention to? Join us for a deep dive into this one essential verse of Isaiah. References: Isaiah 3:16 - 4:1 (2 Nephi 13:16 - 14:1) Matthew 24:19 JST Revelation 12:7 Matthew 23:27-28 2 Nephi 28: 11-14 Matthew 7:21-23 Genesis 30:22 Luke 1:24-25 Isaiah 35:1 Isaiah 51:3 Isaiah 54:1 D&C 67:10 D&C 88:68 Matthew 5:8 D&C 97:15 - 21 D&C 84:54 - 58 Jeremiah 31:34 D&C 93:1 Links: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/tg/god-privilege-of-seeing?lang=eng Disturbing image in case anyone wants it: https://scontent.fslc3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/15380504_1158166154273858_2696491733268329380_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=ghHqEbTGz5oAX8nQnUt&_nc_ht=scontent.fslc3-2.fna&oh=00_AT_S6vd2xMh498G_EHHaZFu16kQL62QRUtF1v02Ji7UCqw&oe=62566667

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