Next Time You’re Suffering, Ask Yourself This Question | Caverly Morgan

Next Time You’re Suffering, Ask Yourself This Question | Caverly Morgan

The highest form of self compassion (is seeing there’s no self in the first place).

Caverly Morgan is a meditation teacher who blends the original spirit of Zen with a modern nondual approach, drawing from her eight years of training in a silent Zen monastery. She's authored two books—The Heart of Who We Are: Realizing Freedom Together and A Kids Book About Mindfulness. Caverly is also the Founder and Lead Contemplative of two nonprofits—Peace in Schools, creating the first U.S. semester-long credited mindfulness course in high schools, and Realizing Freedom Together, dedicated to making practices that lead to liberation for all, accessible to all. Learn more at caverlymorgan.org

In this episode we talk about:

  • How to move past a constricted view of the self
  • Relative vs absolute truth
  • Joseph Goldstein tips on getting a glimpse of no self
  • The perks of meat and potato dharma
  • More practices to help supercharge our practice
  • How love and self-compassion factor into all of this

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A Practice: Fleshing Out Our Conditioning Prompts:

  • In order to be loved, I need to . . .
  • During times of conflict, I should . . .
  • My parents always taught me that . . .
  • I deserve . . .
  • I’ll be comfortable when . . .
  • I’ll be happy when . . .
  • I know I should avoid . . .
  • If only . . .
  • Other people would be happy if I . . .
  • It’s best not to . . .
  • I’m usually afraid of . . .
  • To feel successful I need to . . .
  • The thing I should most watch out for is . . .
  • I never seem to be able to . . .



On Sunday, September 21st from 1-5pm ET, join Dan and Leslie Booker at the New York Insight Meditation Center in NYC as they lead a workshop titled, "Heavily Meditated – The Dharma of Depression + Anxiety." This event is both in-person and online. Sign up here!

Get ready for another Meditation Party at Omega Institute! This in-person workshop brings together Dan with his friends and meditation teachers, Sebene Selassie, Jeff Warren, and for the first time, Ofosu Jones-Quartey. The event runs October 24th-26th. Sign up and learn more at eomega.org/workshops/meditation-party-2025.



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David Leite, Food Writer, Memoirist (LIVE!)

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Daniel Goleman, Diving into 'Emotional Intelligence' (Bonus Episode!)

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"The human central nervous system and brain is designed the same around the world... and there probably is a lot of spontaneous rediscovery in different areas of different ways you can play with the mind," Dan Goleman, renowned psychologist and author of the best-selling book, "Emotional Intelligence," says in our interview. Goleman has helped spread the concept of "emotional intelligence," or "EQ," and its four parts -- self-awareness, self-management, social awareness (empathy) and relationship management (social skills) -- across the globe and explains why it matters a great deal in leadership.

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Sam Harris, 'Waking Up' Podcast Host, Neuroscientist

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Clair Brown, Economist, Author of 'Buddhist Economics'

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