Spring creator Rod Johnson and Oracle vice president Heather VanCura

Hi, Spring and software fans! In this installment of the show we have Spring creator and investor [Rod Johnson](https://twitter.com/springrod) and Oracle vice president [Heather VanCura ](https://twitter.com/heathervc) on the show to talk about the premise of her new book - _Developer Career Masterplan_, coauthored with fellow Java luminary Bruno Souza: building your path to senior levels and beyond.