Time Billionaires: Mindset and Time Management for Work & Life10 Dec 2025

How To Switch Out of Fight-or-Flight When You Need to Perform with Oren Shai — Part 2

In Part 2 of this Time Billionaires episode, Rebecca continues her conversation with Oren Shai, Co-Founder of Feeling School, exploring the deeper connections between nervous system regulation, success, and emotional well-being. Oren explains the difference between parasympathetic (rest and digest) and sympathetic (fight or flight) nervous system states, offering practical techniques like elevating legs above the heart to quickly access parasympathetic responses.

The conversation takes a turn as they discuss how most people misunderstand success, operating from what Oren calls the "coffee and trauma" model, constantly medicating themselves with stimulants while chasing achievements that they believe will finally make them feel complete. Instead, he advocates for redefining success as living authentically, contributing meaningfully, and connecting with others.

Timestamps:

Understanding parasympathetic vs sympathetic nervous system states – 0:42
Contextual approaches to nervous system regulation – 2:30
The importance of experimenting with what works for you – 4:23
Why most careers are "fueled by coffee and trauma" – 6:33
Redefining success beyond achievement metrics – 7:47
Childhood conditioning and earning love patterns – 12:25
Moving beyond protective patterns without blame – 13:36
Final thoughts: The way you want to feel is on the other side of what you're not feeling – 14:40

If you'd like to connect with Oren, you can find Oren on LinkedIn and learn more about Feeling School here.

For more insights on turning hidden minutes into your greatest asset, connect with Rebecca and the Time Billionaires Podcast on LinkedIn!

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Shout-out to Graham Duncan from East Rock Capital for the "Time Billionaires" concept that inspired our show name - originally shared on The Tim Ferriss Show.

Chapters

(00:00:00) - An Exercise for Connecting to Parasympathetic
(00:06:13) - What Most People Don't Understand About Success
(00:14:35) - How to Feel the Way You Want to Feel

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