DEI, Antiracism or Both? (Episode 70)

DEI, Antiracism or Both? (Episode 70)

Any parent knows that no two children are exactly the same. They each have their own style of communication, problem solving, and conflict resolving (or creating). Just like siblings, not all DEI training programs are created equally. Each program depends on the training professional’s area of expertise. If you are seeking out DEI training for your organization, it is important to recognize this.

One of the questions arising in the sea of training options is whether DEI training is the same as a training on anti-racism. This week on the podcast, Shaunna and Lisa discuss the difference between DEI and anti-racism training and how DEI professionals can help structure programming and education to better incorporate principles of anti-racism. They compare training topics to peace-keeping and peace-making and discuss how to build a training that is right for your organization.

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You Can Run, But You Can’t Hide (Episode 61)

You Can Run, But You Can’t Hide (Episode 61)

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Frankenstein DEI (Episode 60)

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On today’s episode, Shaunna and Lisa dive into the specific skills a DEI professional needs to have to do the work well. The podcast has previously covered the need for companies to hire an outside DE...

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Think About How You Hire(archy) (Episode 59)

Think About How You Hire(archy) (Episode 59)

In 2020, the state of Colorado passed a law requiring equal pay for equal work. As part of this law, companies must include salaries when posting new positions. Somewhat unexpectedly, the fallout of t...

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Who’s Telling the Story? (Episode 58)

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History is often presented to us as a concrete fact -- correct and non-negotiable. In school we are quizzed on dates and names, and taught that the stories in our textbooks depict the world exactly as...

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Unchecked Harassment (Episode 57)

Unchecked Harassment (Episode 57)

In a year of podcasts, this was the first time that we felt the need to start with a trigger warning. Why? Robert Sylvester Kelly (R. Kelly). Dr. Larry Nassar. Harvey Weinstein. Dr. William H. Cosb...

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Tripping Into Equity (Episode 56)

Tripping Into Equity (Episode 56)

There has been BIG news in the world of Ironman-branded racing this month. Sika Henry -- friend of the podcast and Outspoken: Women in Triathlon alumna -- made history by starting (and finishing!) as ...

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Conscious Consuming (Episode 55)

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Shaunna was reorganizing her home office and happened to put her hands on the book “Our Black Year” by Maggie Anderson (2012). In short, Maggie and her spouse John -- a middle-class, relatively succes...

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Separate but [un]equal? (episode 54)

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This week on the podcast Shaunna and Lisa discuss the Paralympic Games. The name “Para” is meant to be perceived as beside or alongside “Olympic,” however, the Paralympic games have historically been ...

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