“happiness”

On this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey dive deep into track seven on Evermore: “Happiness.” From Taylor’s own reflections in the Willow live chat and her Apple Music interview with Zane Lowe, to parallels with The Great Gatsby and Easter eggs leading into Midnights and The Life of a Showgirl, we explore the hidden meanings, lyrics, and emotions behind this deceptively titled ballad.

We also break down how “happiness” fits into Taylor’s larger storytelling—grief, reinvention, and moving forward after heartbreak—and debate fun Swiftie trivia like Taylor’s longest songs, the caterpillar-to-butterfly lyric connections, and listener voicemails that tie songs across albums.

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