From Vegan to Carnivore: How the Paleolithic Ketogenic Diet (PKD) Reversed Joint Pain & Binge Eating

In this episode, I sit down with Natalie Daniels — a nutrition therapist, author, and educator with more than a decade of experience in therapeutic nutrition. She works with clients around the world and continues to work alongside Paleomedicina in Budapest, supporting people using the protocol in practice. Over the past decade, she has worked with more than a thousand people and become known for translating complex nutritional concepts into practical, everyday strategies.

Here's what we cover in the episode:

Natalie's 15-year search through vegan, vegetarian, and fruit-based diets — and the six years of joint pain, brain fog, and binge eating that followed

The Ayurvedic pulse diagnosis in India that led her to discover the Paleolithic Ketogenic Diet

What actually differentiates PKD from a standard carnivore diet — fat ratios, organ meats, and its use as a clinical nutritional intervention

Her year living in Hungary training with Paleomedicina, running healing retreats for patients flying in from around the world

A client's Crohn's disease remission after four months on PKD

Being diagnosed with Mast Cell Activation Syndrome and becoming, in her words, "allergic to life itself" — despite a spotless diet

Why calming her nervous system, not restricting her diet further, was what finally resolved her reactions

The role of identity, self-talk, and limiting beliefs in real, lasting health transformation

Her daily movement practice

Her favorite breathwork techniques for stress, energy, and returning to the present moment

The biggest lesson from a decade of client work: the body never responds to one input alone

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Timestamps

00:00 — Intro

02:20 — Natalie's personal story begins

02:37 — Health decline through 15 years of plant-based eating

05:09 — Discovering the Paleolithic Ketogenic Diet

06:40 — Moving to Hungary & writing the PKD cookbook

08:28 — What makes PKD different from carnivore

09:50 — Working with Paleomedicina in Hungary

10:35 — A client's Crohn's disease remission

12:59 — Her private practice today

14:19 — Why diet alone isn't always enough

16:40 — Diagnosed with MCAS — "allergic to life itself" (full story)

19:51 — The nervous system/immune system connection

21:23 — Identity, self-talk, and real transformation

23:25 — Movement, daily training & movement snacks

25:30 — The Katy Bowman influence

28:17 — Where to start with limited mobility

32:08 — Favorite breathwork techniques

37:01 — Biggest lessons from a decade with clients

39:55 — Closing message: relax, the body wants to heal

40:32 — Where to find Natalie & what's next

Connect with Natalie here:

https://www.instagram.com/ancestralcarnivore/

https://nataliedaniels.me/

Disclaimer: The information on this channel is for educational purposes and is not intended to be a substitute for medical advice or therapy. The views and opinions expressed by podcast guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Kristina Dobyns or Beyond Binge Eating.