E64 - The Myth of Motivation: What Actually Gets ADHD Brains Moving w/ FLOWN (Special Guests)

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Summary

In this episode, neurodivergent coaches Vicky and Kit from Flown share insights on motivation, brain science, and embodied practices for managing ADHD. They explore how systems, somatic techniques, and neurodiversity reshape our understanding of productivity and self-care. In this episode, Chichi, Shauna, Kit, and Victoria explore practical strategies for managing motivation, regulation, and self-care with ADHD. They share insights on systems, neurodivergence, and embracing curiosity to thrive.

Host

Chichi

Shauna

Guests

From Flown

Kit

Vicki

Website: flown.com

IG: instagram.com/flownspace

Youtube: youtube.com/@flown_space

ADHD Program: flown.com/adhd-focus-program

Viki's socials:

Website: www.victoriouscoach.com

Youtube: www.youtube.com/@VictoriousCoach

IG: instagram.com/victorious_coach

Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/victoriamc

Kit's socials:

Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/kitslocum

Email: kit@flown.com

Key Topics

• The neuroscience of ADHD and motivation
• Systems and strategies like body doubling and time scaffolding
• The role of the body and breathwork in managing stuckness
• Neurodiversity as a strength and a different way of being
• Cultural and societal influences on time perception and motivation Motivation strategies for neurodivergent people
• The role of regulation and self-care in managing ADHD
• Using curiosity and systems to thrive with neurodivergence
• Practical tips for overcoming overwhelm and procrastination
• The importance of understanding individual neurodivergent needs

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the episode and guests

00:34 Introduction to managing motivation with ADHD

02:02 Guest introductions and motivations of the day

02:57 The importance of regulation and self-care

03:38 Early awareness of motivation differences and late diagnosis

06:54 Using curiosity and systems to overcome overwhelm

12:00 Practical tips: regulatory toolkits and dopamine staircase

12:08 Why motivation is unreliable for ADHD brains

18:00 The role of environment and body in motivation

21:23 Flown's approach: systems over motivation

22:00 Understanding neurodivergence and hormonal influences

24:28 The neuroscience of dopamine and brain networks in ADHD

26:50 Internal family systems therapy explained

32:11 The role of the body and breathwork in regulation

32:52 Embracing adventure and curiosity with ADHD

38:06 Supporting neurodivergent needs seasonally and contextually

41:23 Cultural influences on time and neurodivergence

43:08 Building compassionate habits and removing 'should'

44:36 Embodied practices and somatic techniques for focus

47:49 Neurodivergence and spirituality as intuitive gifts

47:59 Closing thoughts and upcoming programs

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Credits

Scripted by - Julez

Edited by - Shauna

Music

Written & Performed by VVN,

Produced by SolomonsSoul,

Mix & Master by ST4X.

Voice over

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