The Science of Optimal Performance—at Work and Beyond | Daniel Goleman

The Science of Optimal Performance—at Work and Beyond | Daniel Goleman

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How to boost productivity, empathy, and focus, while reducing burnout. From the godfather of Emotional Intelligence.


If you have any degree of ambition, one of the things you probably think about is how to perform at your best, or somewhere close, every day. How to keep your energy up. How to get into flow. How to stay focused and productive. How to play well with others.


Daniel Goleman— his friends call him Danny—-has been thinking and writing about optimal performance for decades. He’s perhaps best known for his book, Emotional Intelligence. He’s a Harvard trained psychologist who also wrote in the New York Times for a while. And in his youth, he spent many years studying meditation in Asia, alongside many of today’s most intellectual meditation teachers like Joseph Goldstein and Sharon Salzberg.


He’s got a new book called Optimal: How to Sustain Personal and Organizational Excellence Every Day, co-written with Cary Cherniss.

In this episode we talk about:

  • How to train your mind for optimal states
  • How to reduce burnout
  • How to develop and deploy empathy in a work setting
  • How to give feedback
  • A productivity hack that involves only doing the easy stuff
  • The 4 parts of emotional intelligence—and how to get better at each
  • And the future of EI in a world of AI


This episode kicks off the latest installment of our occasional series, Sanely Ambitious. Over the next two weeks, we will be posting episodes on: how to focus in the midst of a pandemic of distraction, how to fail well, and when to quit. It’s a great lineup.


Daniel Goleman’s online Emotional Intelligence Program


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The Mental States That Steal Your Calm | Bhikkhu Bodhi

The Mental States That Steal Your Calm | Bhikkhu Bodhi

New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers --- Ever have that experience where you catch yourself in a moment of anger, judgmentalism or fear? And, with a wince, immediately tell yourself a whole story about what kind of person you are? How do you stop this from happening or cut it short once it’s already begun? The answer? Mindfulness or having the basic self-awareness to see what kind of mental states are arising so that you are not owned them. To use a technical Buddhist term this is called, “mindfulness of mind.” It’s the ability to see your mind states without taking them personally and it comes from one of the Buddha’s most famous lists called the four foundations of mindfulness.  Today we are going to learn about the whys and wherefores of mindfulness of mind from one of the most esteemed living Buddhist scholars, Bhikkhu Bodhi. Bodhi is a monk, originally from NYC. He is a prolific translator, scholar, and author of books on the Buddha’s teachings. He is also President of the Buddhist Association of the United States and co-founder and Chairperson of the Board of Buddhist Global Relief.  This episode is the third installment of a series we've launched on the four foundations of mindfulness. In this episode we talk about: The historical backdrop of the four foundations of mindfulness What exactly the Buddha meant by “mindfulness of mind” How we can know whether or not we are being mindful  How not to let our mindfulness become a sort of compulsive internal nanny state Practical instructions for the third foundation (given that the Buddha never actually gave them) And Bhikkhu Bodhi’s view that we should not be mindfulness zealots Photo Credit: Hsiao Ying Chang (史曉瑛) Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/bhikkhu-bodhi-502

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Messiness Is Not a Moral Failing | KC Davis

Messiness Is Not a Moral Failing | KC Davis

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Malcolm Gladwell on: Working From Home, Kindness, Sacrifice, and Making Mistakes

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Unhappiness Is Not a Life Sentence | Christina Feldman

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New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers. --- Is it possible to be happy no matter what happens? Today we’re going right to the source of what makes us unhappy to learn how to disarm and disable potential suffering before it owns us.  Everything that comes up in our mind is either pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral. In other words, with everything we experience, we either want it, don’t want it, or we don’t care. In Buddhism, this is called “feeling tones” or “vedana” and it is known as the second foundation of mindfulness in the Buddha’s comprehensive list. So why does this matter? Because if you are unaware of the pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral tones, then you are being controlled by them. Similarly, if you are unaware that certain people or things provoke aversion, then you can unthinkingly avoid or even be aggressive towards them. In this way, we can be like puppets on a string— just yanked around by greed, hatred, and numbness.  Today’s guest, dharma teacher Christina Feldman, is going to drill down on this embarkation point for our suffering, zap it with mindfulness and help us understand how we don’t have to live like puppets on a string.  Feldman began teaching in the west in the seventies after spending years in Asia studying Buddhist meditation. She is a co-founder of Gaia House, a retreat center in the UK, and has also served as a guiding teacher at Insight Meditation Society beginning in its early days. More recently, she is a co-founder of Bodhi College, which is dedicated to the study and practice of the early teachings of the Buddha. She is the author of a book called, Boundless Heart: The Buddha's Path of Kindness, Compassion, Joy, and Equanimity, and co-author of Mindfulness: Ancient Wisdom Meets Modern Psychology. This episode is the second installment of a series we've launched on the four foundations of mindfulness. In this episode we talk about: Why vedana is often called, “the ruler of consciousness” or “the king, or the queen of consciousness” How to practice with vedana, and the benefits thereof Her lovely description of the Buddha as being very focused on understanding “the architecture of distress and unhappiness”  Her contention that unhappiness is not a life sentence.  Her definition of genuine happiness What she means by the power of “giving greater authority to intentionality, rather than to mood or story” And her personal practice of setting life intentions every year Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/christina-feldman-500

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Why You’re Not Seeing the World Clearly— and How to Fix It | Jessica Nordell

Why You’re Not Seeing the World Clearly— and How to Fix It | Jessica Nordell

New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers. --- Jessica Nordell is a science and culture journalist who has written for the Atlantic and the New York Times. She earned a B.A. in physics from Harvard and an M.F.A. in poetry from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Her new book is called The End of Bias, A Beginning: The Science and Practice of Overcoming Unconscious Bias.  Photo Credit: Leslie Plesser In this episode we talk about:  Why humans have biases What happens physiologically when biases are challenged Why some of the most popular personal and institutional strategies for confronting biases do not work  The role that mindfulness and loving-kindness can play in reducing bias Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/jessica-nordell-rerun

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What "Getting Out of Your Head" Actually Means | Dawn Mauricio

What "Getting Out of Your Head" Actually Means | Dawn Mauricio

New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers. --- It’s such a common desire to get out of our heads — to escape the nonstop, mostly self-referential chatter, the habitual storylines, the ancient resentments and the compulsive self-criticism. Many of us take elaborate and even drastic measures in this regard like self-medication, shopping, tech addiction, and so on. But there’s a much healthier option that is readily and perpetually available. In fact, we’re dragging it around with us all the time, the body.  The Buddha is said to have laid out four ways to be mindful. In other words, to be awake to whatever is happening right now. The first of these four foundations of mindfulness is mindfulness of the body and todays’ guest, meditation teacher Dawn Mauricio, will walk us through the practical applications of this foundation.  Mauricio has been meditating since 2005 and is a graduate of Spirit Rock’s four-year teacher training program. She is also the author of the book, Mindfulness Meditation for Beginners: 50 Meditations to Practice Awareness, Acceptance, and Peace. Dawn’s been on the show before to talk about how to handle difficult people. This episode is the first installment of a series we've launched on the four foundations of mindfulness. In this episode we talk about: What it actually means to get out of your head and into your body and all of the practical ways to get there  How strong emotions and seductive technology can work against us And what to do when being aware of your body might actually not be the best thing for you Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/dawn-mauricio-498

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How to Deal With Emotionally Immature People (Including Maybe Your Own Parents) | Lindsay C. Gibson

How to Deal With Emotionally Immature People (Including Maybe Your Own Parents) | Lindsay C. Gibson

New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers. --- Emotionally immature people (EIP’s) are hard to avoid and most of us, if not all of us, have to deal with them at some point in our lives. These interactions can range from mildly annoying to genuinely traumatic, especially if the emotionally immature people in question are our own parents, which is true for an awful lot of us. Today’s guest, clinical psychologist Lindsay C. Gibson, gives advice for dealing with emotionally immature people, whether they’re your parents or not. She has written a sleeper hit book on the subject called, Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents: How to Heal from Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents. In this episode we talk about: The signs of emotional immaturity Whether or not I’m emotionally immature What happens to children who are raised by emotionally immature parents, including their signature coping strategies Why adult children of EIP’s turn to healing fantasies, and how to let them go How to cope with emotionally immature parents as an adult What role compassion should and should not play in your relationship with EIP’s How to heal Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/lindsay-gibson-497

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Why Is Everyone Talking About the Enneagram? And What the Hell Is It? | Susan Piver

Why Is Everyone Talking About the Enneagram? And What the Hell Is It? | Susan Piver

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