64: The Priesthood Ban -- Mormonism's Other Black Eye | 132 Problems: Mormon Polygamy

64: The Priesthood Ban -- Mormonism's Other Black Eye | 132 Problems: Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Links: *Changes to footnotes Gospel Topic Essay

NAACP collaboration https://medium.com/@Ch_JesusChrist/locking-arms-for-racial-harmony-in-america-2f62180abf37 Joseph Letter to Oliver Cowdery: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-oliver-cowdery-circa-9-april-1836/1#historical-intro Elijah Abel License: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/license-for-elijah-able-31-march-1836/1 Joseph letter to John Bennett: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/times-and-seasons-15-march-1842/7 Joseph Smith statement to Elder Hyde: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-draft-1-january-3-march-1843/2#full-transcript Joseph Smith presidential platform: https://byustudies.byu.edu/online-chapters/volume-6-chapter-8/ John Taylor, August 28, 1881, Journal of Discourses vol 22 pg 304 Brigham Young response about Enoch Lewis: Turner, John G. Brigham Young: Pioneer Prophet. 2012. Harvard University Press. Pg. 222 Jan 23, 1852 Brigham Young speech: https://archive.org/details/teachingofpresid0003fred/page/26/mode/2up?view=theater Feb 5th. 1852 Brigham Young Speech: https://archive.org/details/teachingofpresid0003fred/page/40/mode/2up?view=theater 1st Presidency statements: https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Mormonism_and_racial_issues/Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Statements Lester Bush paper: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N01_13.pdf Edward Kimball paper: https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3908&context=byusq Joseph Fielding Smith 1860 quote: “The Present Status of the Lamanites Question: "The question I have is concerning the present status of the Lamanites. I know that Laman and Lemuel and their families were cursed, but to what extent is this curse carried today? Was the darker skin all or just part of the curse? Will this curse be completely forgotten and taken away by the Lord on the basis of repentance and complete acceptance of the gospel?" Answer: The dark skin was placed upon the Lamanites so that they could be distinguished from the Nephites and to keep the two peoples from mixing. The dark skin was the sign of the curse. The curse was the withdrawal of the Spirit of the Lord and the Lamanites becoming a "loathsome and filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations." (I Nephi 12:23.) The Lord commanded the Nephites not to intermarry with them, for if they did they would partake of the curse. At the time of the Savior's visit to the Nephites all of the people became united, and the curse and the dark skin which was its sign were removed. “The two peoples became one and lived in full harmony and peace for about two hundred years. There were no robbers, nor murderers, neither were there Lamanites, nor any manner of -ites; but they were in one, the children of Christ, and heirs to the kingdom of God. (IV Nephi, verse 17.) EVIL BROUGHT RETURN OF DARK SKIN After the people again forgot the Lord and dissensions arose, some of them took upon themselves the name Lamanites and the dark skin returned. When the Lamanites fully repent and sincerely receive the gospel, the Lord has promised to remove the dark skin. The Lord declared by revelation that, "before the great day of the Lord shall come, Jacob shall flourish in the wilderness, and the Lamanites shall blossom as the rose." (D. & C. 49:24.) The dark skin of those who have come into the Church is no longer to be considered a sign of the curse. Many of these converts are delightsome and have the Spirit of the Lord. Perhaps there are some Lamanites today who are losing the dark pigment. Many of the members of the Church among the Catawba Indians of the South could readily pass as of the white race; also in other parts of the South.”

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15: Janeen Brady: Her Life, Her Music, Her Polygamist Heritage | 132 Problems: Mormon Polygamy

15: Janeen Brady: Her Life, Her Music, Her Polygamist Heritage | 132 Problems: Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Composer Janeen Brady (I Lived in Heaven, I'm a Mormon, When I Grow Up I Want to be a Mother) has written hundreds of songs for children, sold over 15 million albums, and raised a large family. She is also only two generations removed from LDS polygamy. In this fascinating interview she shares her history, insights, wisdom and experiences. We also discuss some of the painful stories from her polygamist ancestors, particularly that of Ann Mariah Bowen Call. You won’t want to miss this one.

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14: The Angel with the Drawn / Flaming Sword | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

14: The Angel with the Drawn / Flaming Sword | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Many still believe this story and use it as a justification for Joseph’s polygamy. Where did this story come from? And does it hold up to scrutiny and what we know of God and the gospel of Jesus Christ? Notes: Gospel topic essay: Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo Brian Hales’s list of accounts (bottom of the essay): Encouraging Joseph Smith to Practice Plural Marriage: The Accounts of the Angel with a Drawn Sword Agency references: D&C 76:27, D&C 29:36, Moses 4:3, 2 Nephi 2:26-27, Alma 12:23&26, Acts 26:14, Mosiah 27:13, Alma 14:10-11, Moses 6:31-35, Exodus 4:1-17, Luke 22:41-44, Elder Hales talk: Agency: Essential to the Plan of Life Marriage references: Matthew 19:5-6, 1 Corinthians 11:11, Ephesians 5:25, D&C 42:22, D&C 38:37, Matthew 1:20-21 * (I believe I said D&C 28:37 in the video. 38:27 is the correct reference) Correction: This story was actually about my 8th baby. My first 6 were at the hospital, 7th was a homebirth, and babies 8-11 were unassisted homebirths.

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13: Our Unique Baptismal Covenants | (Off Topic) -- 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

13: Our Unique Baptismal Covenants | (Off Topic) -- 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems A very personal episode. Our unique baptismal covenants are more important, inspired, and specific than I ever knew. They deserve our focus. As we come to better understand them and their inspired order, we can learn to better implement them and fulfill the covenants we make as disciples of Christ. (A sidetrack from our usual topic -- next week we'll get back to polygamy.) Scriptures: Mosiah 18: 5-10 Links: (Elder Anderson @ 3:45) https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/broadcasts/watch/general-conference-leadership-training/2015/04?lang=eng&vid=4775931419001

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12: Jacob's Polygamy | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

12: Jacob's Polygamy | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems We look in depth at the story of Jacob and his wives, Leah, Rachel, Bilhah, and Zilpah. What were their experiences? Is polygamy a blessing or a curse? Why was Jacob a polygamist? And what was the real reason Jacob (and Abraham) were not condemned for their polygamy? Scriptures: Genesis 28 - 33 Genesis 9:8, D&C 107 (Evidence against primogeniture) Mosiah 3:19 Links: Hebrew word tsarah: https://biblehub.com/hebrew/6869.htm MANDRAKES - they are REAL and grown in Oxford!

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11: Verse 1 -- Preconceptions and Concubines |132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

11: Verse 1 -- Preconceptions and Concubines |132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems An in depth investigation into the serious problems that show up in the very first verse of Section 132. Scriptures: Judges 19 Helaman 11:23 Links: https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/concubine https://historytogo.utah.gov/blacks-utah-history/ https://www.mormonchronicle.com/testimony-of-william-clayton/

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10: Was Moses a Polygamist? | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

10: Was Moses a Polygamist? | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems D&C Section 132 claims that Moses was a polygamist. We’ll study why people make that claim and investigate whether or not it is true. This episode surprised me! So much to learn! Scriptures: Exodus 2, 4, 6, 18,19 Numbers 10-12

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9: Isaac's Polygamy? | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

9: Isaac's Polygamy? | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Section 132 claims that Isaac was a polygamist. We'll investigate that claim and try to understand where it might have come from. Scriptures used: Genesis 23 - 27

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8: Isaiah 4:1 (2 Nephi 14:1) | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

8: Isaiah 4:1 (2 Nephi 14:1) | 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Isaiah prophesied that "seven women will take hold of one man." What does that mean? Is it proof that polygamy is of God and is in our future? Or could it possibly have a much more profound and important meaning that we could and should pay attention to? Join us for a deep dive into this one essential verse of Isaiah. References: Isaiah 3:16 - 4:1 (2 Nephi 13:16 - 14:1) Matthew 24:19 JST Revelation 12:7 Matthew 23:27-28 2 Nephi 28: 11-14 Matthew 7:21-23 Genesis 30:22 Luke 1:24-25 Isaiah 35:1 Isaiah 51:3 Isaiah 54:1 D&C 67:10 D&C 88:68 Matthew 5:8 D&C 97:15 - 21 D&C 84:54 - 58 Jeremiah 31:34 D&C 93:1 Links: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/tg/god-privilege-of-seeing?lang=eng Disturbing image in case anyone wants it: https://scontent.fslc3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/15380504_1158166154273858_2696491733268329380_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=ghHqEbTGz5oAX8nQnUt&_nc_ht=scontent.fslc3-2.fna&oh=00_AT_S6vd2xMh498G_EHHaZFu16kQL62QRUtF1v02Ji7UCqw&oe=62566667

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