64: The Priesthood Ban -- Mormonism's Other Black Eye | 132 Problems: Mormon Polygamy
132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy15 Maj 2023

64: The Priesthood Ban -- Mormonism's Other Black Eye | 132 Problems: Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Links: *Changes to footnotes Gospel Topic Essay

NAACP collaboration https://medium.com/@Ch_JesusChrist/locking-arms-for-racial-harmony-in-america-2f62180abf37 Joseph Letter to Oliver Cowdery: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-oliver-cowdery-circa-9-april-1836/1#historical-intro Elijah Abel License: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/license-for-elijah-able-31-march-1836/1 Joseph letter to John Bennett: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/times-and-seasons-15-march-1842/7 Joseph Smith statement to Elder Hyde: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-draft-1-january-3-march-1843/2#full-transcript Joseph Smith presidential platform: https://byustudies.byu.edu/online-chapters/volume-6-chapter-8/ John Taylor, August 28, 1881, Journal of Discourses vol 22 pg 304 Brigham Young response about Enoch Lewis: Turner, John G. Brigham Young: Pioneer Prophet. 2012. Harvard University Press. Pg. 222 Jan 23, 1852 Brigham Young speech: https://archive.org/details/teachingofpresid0003fred/page/26/mode/2up?view=theater Feb 5th. 1852 Brigham Young Speech: https://archive.org/details/teachingofpresid0003fred/page/40/mode/2up?view=theater 1st Presidency statements: https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Mormonism_and_racial_issues/Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Statements Lester Bush paper: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N01_13.pdf Edward Kimball paper: https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3908&context=byusq Joseph Fielding Smith 1860 quote: “The Present Status of the Lamanites Question: "The question I have is concerning the present status of the Lamanites. I know that Laman and Lemuel and their families were cursed, but to what extent is this curse carried today? Was the darker skin all or just part of the curse? Will this curse be completely forgotten and taken away by the Lord on the basis of repentance and complete acceptance of the gospel?" Answer: The dark skin was placed upon the Lamanites so that they could be distinguished from the Nephites and to keep the two peoples from mixing. The dark skin was the sign of the curse. The curse was the withdrawal of the Spirit of the Lord and the Lamanites becoming a "loathsome and filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations." (I Nephi 12:23.) The Lord commanded the Nephites not to intermarry with them, for if they did they would partake of the curse. At the time of the Savior's visit to the Nephites all of the people became united, and the curse and the dark skin which was its sign were removed. “The two peoples became one and lived in full harmony and peace for about two hundred years. There were no robbers, nor murderers, neither were there Lamanites, nor any manner of -ites; but they were in one, the children of Christ, and heirs to the kingdom of God. (IV Nephi, verse 17.) EVIL BROUGHT RETURN OF DARK SKIN After the people again forgot the Lord and dissensions arose, some of them took upon themselves the name Lamanites and the dark skin returned. When the Lamanites fully repent and sincerely receive the gospel, the Lord has promised to remove the dark skin. The Lord declared by revelation that, "before the great day of the Lord shall come, Jacob shall flourish in the wilderness, and the Lamanites shall blossom as the rose." (D. & C. 49:24.) The dark skin of those who have come into the Church is no longer to be considered a sign of the curse. Many of these converts are delightsome and have the Spirit of the Lord. Perhaps there are some Lamanites today who are losing the dark pigment. Many of the members of the Church among the Catawba Indians of the South could readily pass as of the white race; also in other parts of the South.”

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137: The Value of Engagement Across Ideologies

137: The Value of Engagement Across Ideologies

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems Whitney Documents Episodes: (Links to all documents in episode descriptions) Part 3 - The Blessing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihu6lyQgvoY&t=123s Part 2 - The Letter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDjURE2udVY Part 1 - The Revelation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC7cMo8kd70&t=2s Journal of Mormon Polygamy Announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j61m9U0WBS4&t=6s

22 Sep 20241h 9min

136: Whitney Documents, Pt. 3 - Blessing to Sarah Ann

136: Whitney Documents, Pt. 3 - Blessing to Sarah Ann

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems Blessing to Sarah Ann Whitney https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/blessing-to-sarah-ann-whitney-23-march-1843/1 Rob Fotheringham: "Evaluation of 1842 Whitney 'Revelation' " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HheHqg4c3HQ

15 Sep 20241h 53min

135: Whitney Documents, Part 2 – The Letter

135: Whitney Documents, Part 2 – The Letter

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems The collection often referred to as "the Whitney documents," which includes contemporary sources written in Joseph's own hand, is generally considered to be the strongest evidence of Joseph's polygamy. Recently multiple historians I have engaged with have gone directly to the Whitney documents to explain to me why the history of Joseph's polygamy is settled. I strongly disagree with them. But, I realized I needed to directly address the Whitney documents to explain why I and many others do not see the Whitney collection as evidence of Joseph's polygamy -- but instead as evidence of something very different. Links: Emma's efforts to avoid being followed to Joseph's hiding place https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/journal-december-1841-december-1842/36 Joseph's letter to Emma, August 16, 1842 https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-emma-smith-16-august-1842/1 Emma's response to Joseph, August 16, 1842 https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-from-emma-smith-16-august-1842/1 Joseph's letter to the Whitneys, August 18, 1842 https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-newel-k-elizabeth-ann-smith-and-sarah-ann-whitney-18-august-1842/1 Emma's letters to the governor: https://ensignpeakfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/The-Lady-and-the-Governor-Emma-Hale-Smith%E2%80%99s-and-Thomas-Carlin%E2%80%99s-1842-Correspondence.pdf

8 Sep 20242h 20min

134: Gwendolyn Wyne Is Telling Our Best Story

134: Gwendolyn Wyne Is Telling Our Best Story

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems Intro to Gwendolyn's latest video, "Our Best Story": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7atQ07NVd4c Watch full video: "Our Best Story" - Polygamy: An Enemy Has Done This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYuOTM7YWxU Hemlock Knots - excellent church history resource https://hemlockknots.com/

1 Sep 20242h 10min

133: Women React to Mormon Land - Part Two

133: Women React to Mormon Land - Part Two

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems Mormon Land podcast episode 345: Did Joseph Smith Practice Polygamy? https://soundcloud.com/mormonland/did-joseph-smith-practice-polygamy https://open.spotify.com/episode/5h56v6PacWQW0SVuw4Q4H8?go=1&sp_cid=4032595e46cd4d53032062d8bc47f507&nd=1&dlsi=542a62d9ec144f74

25 Aug 20243h 20min

132: Updates, the Temple, and A Way Forward

132: Updates, the Temple, and A Way Forward

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems John Whitmer Historical Association Conference, Sept. 12-15, 2024 Michelle to present on Friday, Sept. 13 - Register here: https://www.jwha.info/2024-annual-conference/ Red Brick Store Correspondence w/ Church Leaders/Employees: https://132problems.org/the-mural-in-the-red-brick-store/ Remembering Emma Conference Day 1 (Michelle starts @ 3:03:25) https://youtu.be/s_fekFvqxYM?t=11004

18 Aug 20241h 37min

131: Discussing Jacob 2 with Steve Reed of OneClimbs

131: Discussing Jacob 2 with Steve Reed of OneClimbs

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems OneClimbs.com https://oneclimbs.com/ https://oneclimbs.com/2017/01/05/a-proposed-reinterpretation-of-jacob-230/ Joseph Fought Polygamy, by Richard and Pamela Price https://restorationbookstore.org/pages/joseph-smith-fought-polygamy-online

11 Aug 20242h 9min

130: Women React to Mormon Land w/ Matt Bowman and Brooke LeFevre

130: Women React to Mormon Land w/ Matt Bowman and Brooke LeFevre

Mormon Land recently followed-up the Matt Bowman's Salt Lake Tribune article with an interview of Matt and Brooke LeFevre discussing the growing numbers of "Mormon types" who no longer believe Joseph Smith practiced polygamy. Join us as we discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly of this interview. Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems Judge Phillips Temple Lot Decision: https://archive.org/details/decisionofjohnfp00philrich/page/n7/mode/2up

4 Aug 20243h 7min

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