103: ALL Over the Map with Rock Waterman

103: ALL Over the Map with Rock Waterman

Thank you Rock for this great conversation!

We go all over the place! We discuss his early blog about Joseph's polygamy, his recent blogs about Israel and Palestine, the current situation of the church, and much more.


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Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24

Patreon.com/132problems



Links:


Why I’m Abandoning Polygamy, by Rock Waterman

https://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-im-abandoning-polygamy.html


Doctrine and Covenants section 101 - 1835 edition

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/doctrine-and-covenants-1835/259


Joseph Smith Fought Polygamy, by Richard and Pamela Price

https://restorationbookstore.org/pages/joseph-smith-fought-polygamy-online


Joseph Smith and Polygamy: Persistence of a Myth, by Rock Waterman

https://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2020/01/joseph-smith-and-polygamy-persistence.html


"How Mormons Should Think About The War In Israel," by Rock Waterman

https://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2023/10/how-mormons-should-think-about-war-in.html


Episode 71: One “Polygamy Denier’s” Response to Bill Reel, RFM, and Brian Hales

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE9_2aQajno


R. McKay White article on the Kirtland Safety Society

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/conference/august-2009/the-kirtland-safety-society


Episode 78: RLDS Church History and Defending Joseph w/ Cheryl and Dan Clute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X904zl5ZliE


Episode 94: Historical Malpractice Part 1 – A Conversation with Whitney Horning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n_mDIsV6LI



Topics Index:


0:00 Intro

0:01:30 Rock's blogpost on polygamy

0:37:20 Interview begins

0:46:40 Rock's views on the LDS church

1:04:55 Thoughts on Israeli & Palestine

1:44:55 Joseph's monogamy

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