Want to Understand the Drug War? Listen to These 2 Unlikely Voices
10 Toes Podcast26 Aug 2025

Want to Understand the Drug War? Listen to These 2 Unlikely Voices

Kyle Sandler On TikTok

https://www.tiktok.com/@federalprisontips


Jason Votrobek on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/8upjay/


Louis Essig on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/louisessig/


https://www.youtube.com/@Officialgetagrippodcast


In this explosive part two, 10 Toes Podcast hosts Kyle Sandler and Jason Votrobek sit down again with Louis Essig, the ex-con turned podcast host of Get A Grip, to dive deep into raw conversations about addiction, drug abuse, and redemption. What makes this episode unique is the clash of perspectives: Louis, a former heroin junkie who spiraled into overdose and prison, versus Jason, a retired cocaine smuggler who once controlled the flow of kilos into the U.S.


🔑 Episode Highlights:

Drug Dealers vs. Addicts – Jason reveals how, when he discovered his friends were using, he insisted on being their sole supplier so he could monitor their drug intake and prevent deadly overdoses. Louis counters with the chilling truth of what that would’ve meant for him during his darkest days of heroin addiction.


Inside the Addict’s Mind – Louis opens up about the uncontrollable cravings, overdoses, and chaos of living as a heroin addict, offering listeners a visceral look at the damage drugs inflict.


Dealer’s Responsibility? – A heated discussion breaks out about whether dealers bear responsibility for their customers, shining a light on the blurred lines between profit, loyalty, and morality in the underworld.


Getting Clean & Staying Clean – Both men reflect on the journey out of drugs—rehab, recovery, and building new lives after crime and chaos.


Clash of Two Worlds – This episode captures a rare dialogue between the supplier and the consumer, exposing uncomfortable truths about the drug game from both ends.


This conversation is raw, unfiltered, and packed with insight into the realities of the criminal underworld, addiction, and the long road to redemption.

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