Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast22 Des 2025

Artificial Intelligence for the Clinician Episode 4: Ethics in Surgery

Welcome back for our series on AI for the clinician. This episode is a discussion about the ethical challenges and questions of AI in surgery, and there are often more questions than answers.

Hosts:
Ayman Ali, MD
Ayman Ali is a Behind the Knife fellow and general surgery PGY-4 at Duke Hospital in his academic development time where he focuses on data science, artificial intelligence, and surgery.

Ruchi Thanawala, MD: @Ruchi_TJ
Ruchi Thanawala is an Associate Professor of Thoracic Surgery and Faculty in the Informatics Division at Oregon Health and Science University (tOHSU) and founder of Firefly, an AI-driven platform that is built for competency-based medical education. In addition, she directs the Surgical Data and Decision Sciences Lab for the Department of Surgery at OHSU.

Phillip Jenkins, MD: @PhilJenkinsMD
Phil Jenkins is a general surgery PGY-4 at Oregon Health and Science University and a National Library of Medicine Post-Doctoral fellow pursuing a master’s in clinical informatics.

Steven Bedrick, PhD: @stevenbedrick
Steven Bedrick is a machine learning researcher and an Associate Professor in Oregon Health and Science University’s Division of Informatics, Clinical Epidemiology, and Translational Data Science. His research is focused on biomedical applications for speech and language technologies, with particular emphases on facilitating secondary use of electronic health record data and on supporting the diagnosis and management of language and communication disorders.

Ryan Antiel, MD: @RyanAntiel
Ryan Antiel is an Associate Professor of Pediatric Surgery at Duke Hospital and an associate director of the Trent Center for Bioethics, Humanities, and History of Medicine. His research addresses ethical challenges surrounding the care of seriously ill fetuses and neonates. He is also interested in the moral formation of surgical trainees.

Kayte Spector-Bagdady, JD: @KayteSB
Kayte Spector-Bagdady is the Wantz Professor of Bioethics and Director of Michigan Bioethics at the University of Michigan Medical School. Her research focuses on increasing accessibility of health data for research and generalizability for diverse patient populations. She is also the former Associate Director for President Obama’s bioethics commission.

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