Trash Moths to the Trash Flame

Trash Moths to the Trash Flame

Hosts and Slate journalists April Glaser and Will Oremus are excited to bring you this new weekly podcast: If Then.

The hosts start by talking through some of the most interesting tech news of the week (we promise it's not just tech geeks fawning over their smart watches).

They dig into the big story this week - how Facebook, Twitter, and Google all took a trip to congress this week to testify at three different hearings about how russian operatives used their platforms to interfere in the 2016 election--and help secure Trump’s victory. What did these companies know was happening, and what they could have done to stop it?

The hosts are also joined by author and former Facebook Product Manager Antonio García Martínez (@antoniogm) to talk about what he thinks the role of these powerful tech companies is now that we know more about what happened in the run up to the presidential election.

And to end the show - "Don't Close My Tabs" - a look into some of the best things seen online this week, as recommended by your show hosts.

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You can get updates about what’s coming up next by following us on twitter @ifthenpod. You can follow Will @WillOremus and April is @Aprilaser. If you have a question or comment for us, you can email as well at ifthen@slate.com.

See you back here next Wednesday!

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