Why Nick Reiner's Conservatorship Protected NO ONE—The System Failures That May Have Cost Rob & Michele Their Lives

Why Nick Reiner's Conservatorship Protected NO ONE—The System Failures That May Have Cost Rob & Michele Their Lives

The state of California declared Nick Reiner gravely disabled in 2020. A judge signed off. A professional conservator was appointed. For one year, Nick could be forced into treatment, forced to take medication, placed in a locked psychiatric facility if doctors deemed it necessary. This was the system working.

Then it stopped working. The conservatorship expired in 2021 and was never renewed. For four years, Nick Reiner was a free adult making his own medical decisions—including, according to sources, a medication change approximately one month before his parents were found dead.

This episode is a deep dive into exactly how California's LPS conservatorship system failed the Reiner family at every stage. The legal threshold that may have disqualified Nick from renewal because his parents were providing for his basic needs. The appellate court precedent that prevents conservatorships based on predicted future harm. The automatic one-year termination with no mandatory follow-up. The 2020 state audit revealing that fewer than 9% of discharged patients get connected to ongoing care.

We examine the statistic that should terrify every family in California: 83% of conserved patients remain stable during their conservatorship, but only 43% remain stable after it ends. More than half deteriorate. And the state considers this acceptable.

Steven Baer, the licensed fiduciary who served as Nick's conservator, will almost certainly testify at trial. What he observed, why the conservatorship wasn't renewed, what the system knew and when—these questions will be central to both the prosecution and defense.

If the charges are accurate, the conservatorship didn't protect Nick from his illness or his parents from their son. It just bought one year of stability, then walked away.

Nick Reiner is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

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