The Case for Open-Source AI - with Nicholas Thompson and Raffi Krikorian

The Case for Open-Source AI - with Nicholas Thompson and Raffi Krikorian

Why does AI answer the way it does? Even as models cite their sources, the question of “why” remains one of the most confounding in the industry, with huge implications for users and builders alike. Mozilla CTO Raffi Krikorian says much of the answer lies in open-source AI— letting users look under the hood to see what’s happening. It’s a compelling idea, one that could also impact safety and alignment. But can it thrive? And what are the risks of ceding control? In a deep conversation with Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson, Raffi describes a world where technology is liberated from a handful of corporations, shares his hopes and fears for AI, and reflects on his recent car crash involving a self-driving Tesla. (00:00) Introduction: The mystery of AI decision-making and the need for transparency (02:25) Twitter, Uber, and the DNC: Raffi’s career history (05:01) How centralization changed Twitter into X (08:30) Why seven companies shouldn't control AGI (11:38) Mozilla's mission: Building an open AI ecosystem like Firefox did for the web (14:21) Is it strange that Google funds Firefox? (16:40) The four layers of AI openness: Compute, data, models, and developer tooling (22:20) Data ethics and provenance: Creating markets for ethically-sourced training data (26:44) What counts as “true” open-source AI? (32:04) The risks of open source AI: Balancing accessibility with safety concerns (35:56) Should powerful AI be restricted like nuclear weapons? (39:17) Raffi's Tesla crash and the danger of automated complacency (46:56) Preserving humanity in the age of AI: Avoiding the "WALL-E" future Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Case Against the AI Bubble - Azeem Azhar with Nicholas Thompson

The Case Against the AI Bubble - Azeem Azhar with Nicholas Thompson

Among the many eye-popping numbers of the AI industry—from trillions in investments to billions in spending—one stands out: $0 in profit among leading AI companies. According to Bloomberg, “never befo...

23 Sep 1h 5min

The Future of Economic Power -  Circle’s Jeremy Allaire with Nicholas Thompson

The Future of Economic Power - Circle’s Jeremy Allaire with Nicholas Thompson

Technological waves often arrive with a promise. The internet was going to democratize information. Blockchain was going to decentralize power. Now, AI's boosters say it will bring unprecedented prosp...

16 Sep 1h 9min

The Race to Superintelligence - Richard Socher with Nicholas Thompson

The Race to Superintelligence - Richard Socher with Nicholas Thompson

As AI’s capabilities improve, reports of “rogue” agents and misaligned systems are becoming more frequent. In response, some activists, academics, and politicians have called for a pause in developmen...

9 Sep 1h 8min

How to Get Hired in the AI Era - Clara Shih with Nicholas Thompson

How to Get Hired in the AI Era - Clara Shih with Nicholas Thompson

For years, tech CEOs have promised that AI will take on the menial, repetitive tasks that have long been a part of office life. Typically, those tasks are assigned to younger, less experienced workers...

2 Sep 50min

Kara Swisher on What Silicon Valley Is Getting Right—and Wrong—in AI

Kara Swisher on What Silicon Valley Is Getting Right—and Wrong—in AI

Kara Swisher has done a bit of everything. She’s covered the rise of Silicon Valley’s tech giants, founded and sold her own startup publication, and dabbled in Hollywood, with appearances in films suc...

26 Aug 49min

How AI Could Upend Global Politics  - Ian Bremmer with Nicholas Thompson

How AI Could Upend Global Politics - Ian Bremmer with Nicholas Thompson

AI may have leveled the playing field in coding and app development, but it’s also put potentially dangerous tools in reach of nefarious actors. Now, empowered by AI, state-backed intelligence agencie...

19 Aug 1h 4min

Writing in the Age of AI - Gemini Notebook’s Steven Johnson with Nicholas Thompson

Writing in the Age of AI - Gemini Notebook’s Steven Johnson with Nicholas Thompson

Steven Johnson spent decades figuring out the best ways to turn his research into words on the page. Now, he’s adapting those methods for Gemini Notebook, Google’s AI-powered interactive bibliography....

12 Aug 1h 2min

Meta's Plan to Win in AI - Andrew Bosworth with Nicholas Thompson

Meta's Plan to Win in AI - Andrew Bosworth with Nicholas Thompson

However you feel about Meta, Andrew Bosworth has likely played a part in it. The long-serving right hand to Mark Zuckerberg and current Chief Technology Officer, “Boz” has helped shape almost every st...

8 Jul 50min

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