The Beyond Tomorrow Podcast with Julian Issa28 Aug

Ben Goertzel: Whoever Gets AGI First Can CONQUER THE PLANET

How close are we to AGI?

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The race toward AGI is entering a new phase. Ben Goertzel explores alternative paths to intelligence beyond simply building bigger models.

The conversation also examines the global AI race. The U.S. and China are competing for technological leadership. But the future of AI may not remain centralized.

Then comes the bigger question: what happens after superintelligence? Goertzel imagines AI that could protect humanity. It could even help overcome aging, disease, and other human limitations.

Ben Goertzel is an AI researcher, futurist, and CEO of SingularityNET and BGI Labs. Widely recognized as one of the pioneers of Artificial General Intelligence, he has spent more than two decades developing decentralized AI systems designed to benefit humanity.

What You’ll Learn

Why the AI revolution may be bigger than previous technological shifts
How AI could become an extension of human intelligence
Why agency may matter more than machine consciousness
How the brain creates a simulated model of reality
Whether consciousness could emerge on different substrates
Why AI alignment is also a problem of human alignment
How AI could help humanity become smarter and more coherent

⏱ Timestamps

00:00 Intro

00:07 What Happens in the Next 12 Months?

03:41 Why China Is Catching Up

07:36 Why China Wants AI Control

10:18 Can Governments Control AI?

13:02 Human-Level AGI vs Superintelligence

15:35 Will ASI be Chinese or American?

17:47 The Next Breakthrough to AGI

21:05 How AI Could Become More Intelligent

22:23 Why Language Powers AI

27:33 Can Decentralized AI Change Everything?

32:23 The Global Race vs Decentralized AI

36:22 Would Superintelligence Protect Humanity?

40:19 Can We Build Compassionate AGI?

46:27 Why AI Arms Races Are Dangerous

51:14 Why Governments Shouldn’t Control AI

53:17 Can the Government Keep Up With AI?

54:00 Will Open AI Challenge Big Tech?

55:12 The Future of Decentralized AI

56:27 Could 2045 Arrive by 2028?

Connect with Ben

Website: https://singularitynet.io/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bengoertzel

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