S6 E9 | It’s Scary to Publish a Book, with Dr. Howard Schubiner

Today, we’re joined by doctor, leader, researcher, and author of Unlearn Your Pain: The Science of Recovering from Chronic Pain, Fatigue, Anxiety, and Depression. In this conversation, you'll learn more about Dr. Howard Schubiner, his career, his process, and the fears he experienced as he published his book. It’s truly an honor to have him as a guest. Howard’s humor, authenticity, generosity, and compassion all shine through brilliantly in this little talk. Come hang out with us.

In this Episode:

🔹 We discuss Dr. Schubiner’s pre-mindbody career.

🔹 Then he started doing some work in this field, “and the results were astounding.”

🔹 “Life presents lots of opportunities. And the question is: are you interested, able, and ready to walk through those doors?”

🔹 “Of course I was skeptical.” “If you’re not skeptical, you’re not a scientist.”

🔹 Dr. Schubiner tells us about his training with Dr. John Sarno.

🔹 He describes the early and burgeoning research on mindbody modalities, much of which he pioneered.

🔹 We explore why so many physicians misunderstand this work.

🔹 We wade into the waters of the “controversial” and highly emotionally-laden diagnoses like long covid.

🔹 “It’s not fun being accused of gaslighting someone.”

🔹 A friend asked Howard, “How are you feeling about your new book?” And Howard said, in honesty, “I’m really excited, but I’m also scared.”

🔹 “I’m scared about what people will think and ‘the haters’ and the backlash. Because I really put it all out there.”

🔹 Howard says, of the controversy, “I love the people who hate me. They care passionately. They want a better world. They want a world where suffering is improved.”

🔹 He also describes various parts of his new book, which, if you haven’t read it, will be exciting to learn about.

Howard tells us: “Life is for learning,” we talk about Broadway musicals, we talk about “what if I die right before the book comes out?”, we go a little bit “off the rails”... This is a fun one. You’ll definitely want to join us. We’d love to have you.

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Find Howard:

Follow Howard on Instagram: @hschubiner

Read the Book: Unlearn Your Pain: The Science of Recovering from Chronic Pain, Fatigue, Anxiety, and Depression

Listen to the Podcast: The Science Behind the Symptoms with Howard Schubiner, MD and Rebecca Kennedy, MD

Howard’s Website: unlearnyourpain.com

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Find Sean:

Sean’s Website: mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Click Here to Ask Sean a Question

Sean’s Free Email List: Free Mindbody Advice and Reminders – From Me to You, Every Week

Sean’s Instagram: @mindbodymedicineforchronicpain

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Learn About Therapy with Sean: Therapy for Chronic Pain and Symptoms

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Oprah Daily: The 5 Best Books for Chronic Pain, According to Experts

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

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