Zombies Need Air Conditioning, Too | Interview: Thomas Chatterton Williams

Jonah Goldberg is not a bigot. Yet, as we all know, there are exceptions to every rule. The French are one of those exceptions. In particular, Jonah sees the cheese-eating surrender monkeys’ refusal to embrace America’s foremost gift to the civilized world—air conditioning—as an offense against all reason and good sense. Nevertheless, being a fair-minded man, Jonah is willing to give the French a hearing. Having no desire to talk to an actual Frenchy, however, he’s turned to the next best thing: an American who lives in France. Sweat beading on his forehead, Thomas Chatterton Williams joins The Remnant not only to make apology for his adoptive country’s backward ways, but to dispense his usual authoritative takes on politics and culture, covering race in France, the Rassemblement National, radical Islam, integration, accents, Woke 1, Jason Arday, 80/20 issues, policing speech, The Odyssey, Christopher Nolan, and Jonah’s ideal zombie movie. Show Notes: —Francis Dearnley Remnant —TCW in The Atlantic - “France’s Best Argument Against Racism Isn’t Working” —Robert Nisbet - The Quest for Community —TCW - Self-Portrait in Black and White —Colin Gorrie Remnant —NYT - “A Decorated Historian’s Research Comes Under Fire” —Jesse Singal in The Dispatch - “The Cascade of Dysfunction That Helped Doom Jason Arday” —Jonah’s G-File on The Odyssey —Tom Holland - Dominion —Colson Whitehead - Zone One —Max Brooks: World War Z The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant, audio versions of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—⁠click here⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices