Why Your Discovery Call Isn’t Finding Real Problems | Bite-Sized Tactics

Why Your Discovery Call Isn’t Finding Real Problems | Bite-Sized Tactics

Max Licht (Enterprise AE @ MaestroQA) breaks down his shadow-based discovery process. This technique goes beyond typical discovery calls, allowing you to witness firsthand where inefficiencies and bottlenecks are happening. 1. Identify the Painful Process - Research the customer's current workflow and tools (e.g., Excel, Salesforce) to understand the manual, time-consuming steps involved. - This reveals where inefficiencies exist, giving you a clear picture of the pain your solution can alleviate. It also helps you identify the "drag them through the glass" moments where the pain is most acute, which is critical for building urgency. 2. Set Up the Shadowing Session - Frame the shadow as a collaborative step to fully understand their process. Instead of just making claims, say something like, *“Before I make any promises, I want to fully understand your current reporting process to see where we can add the most value.”* - This approach shifts the focus from selling to problem-solving, making you a trusted partner rather than just a vendor. It also sets the stage for a more meaningful business case. 3. Conduct the Shadow - Watch the prospect use their current tools and processes. Take notes, capture screenshots, and pay attention to friction points, inefficiencies, and workarounds they rely on. - Seeing the workflow in action often reveals unspoken pain points and limitations that even the prospect might not articulate in a standard discovery call. This firsthand observation helps you tailor your pitch to the reality of their day-to-day work. 4. Use Shadows to Build a Business Case - Use the insights gathered to frame your solution as a direct response to the pain points you observed. For example, highlight how your tool eliminates specific inefficiencies, reduces manual steps, or streamlines complex reporting. - This concrete evidence makes your pitch more credible and aligns your solution directly with their business goals, increasing the likelihood of internal buy-in. 5. Follow Up Strategically - After the shadow, summarize your findings in a follow-up email or meeting, highlighting specific pain points you observed and how your solution can address them. Use this to drive urgency and move the deal forward. - This reinforces your credibility as a problem-solver and keeps the conversation anchored in real, observed issues, rather than hypothetical value propositions. 6. Use the Shadow as a Catalyst for Future Conversations - Reference specific pain points in later stages of the sales cycle, using them to frame your solution as a clear, tangible fix for their current frustrations. - This approach keeps the focus on solving their problems, reducing friction in the decision-making process and increasing the likelihood of a successful close. RESOURCES DISCUSSED: ⁠Join our weekly newsletter⁠ ⁠Things you can steal⁠ ⁠Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST”

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Hall of Fame: Talha Husayn Ep. 119

Hall of Fame: Talha Husayn Ep. 119

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Call your below-the-line org. contacts to gather intel that you can bring up when having above-the-line conversations. Try to get a direct referral to your target persona, next best would be “permission to mention X’s name”, next best would be using the information from X’s conversation when contacting the target. Use “[X] said we should speak” as a simple, attention-grabbing subject line for the target persona. Document all your conversations in your CRM notes at the prospect AND account level for easy recall in future outreach. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB VP of Sales @ Orum Account Executive @ Teamable Software Head of Sales @ Neptune.io Manager, Sales Development and Operations @ CloudVelox [Acquired by VMware] RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

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Sell Playbook: The Ultimate Cold Calling Masterclass

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233 (Lead) Interview Smarter: Using Roleplays to Identify Top Sales Talent (Brooke Freedman, Chameleon)

FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS Sales leaders need to stop observing from the sidelines and actively participate in deals as player-coaches, even if they are CROs. Giving candidates extensive preparation materials for role plays allows for a more accurate evaluation of their abilities. Replaying specific parts of a role play multiple times can effectively demonstrate a candidate's coachability. Hiring decisions should be unequivocally positive or negative, avoiding the temptation to settle for average candidates. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB VP of Sales @ Chameleon Senior Director of Sales @ Drift Senior Director of Sales @ Litmus Sales Manager @ Litmus RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

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232 (Sell) The Perfect Deal Negotiation Process (Armand Farrokh, 30MPC)

232 (Sell) The Perfect Deal Negotiation Process (Armand Farrokh, 30MPC)

TOP ACTIONABLE SALES TAKEAWAYS: Act surprised and maintain confidence when faced with resistance on price; don't normalize discounts or concessions easily. Make each concession painful for the customer; show that every request comes with effort and negotiation, preventing them from expecting easy wins. Act as if achieving approvals for concessions is difficult and uncertain, emphasizing the rarity and challenge of gaining internal approvals. Finish negotiations in two parts if necessary, using options to force a final trade-off that emphasizes the value of each choice, encouraging a more strategic decision-making process. ARMAND'S PATH TO PRESIDENTS CLUB: Founder @ 30MPC VP of Sales @ Pave Director of Sales @ Carta RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

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Hall of Fame: Will Padilla Ep. 129

Hall of Fame: Will Padilla Ep. 129

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS When asked for pricing early, give a range but hold the other key pricing details until you get feedback. If you’re getting ongoing buying objections, suggest that it may be too early to be talking. Get to the true objection when someone asks to be sent more information. Before giving any discounts, get clear commitment on timing. And make it clear that if there’s a slip, it starts back at standard pricing. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Senior Account Executive @ Inveterate Sr. Account Executive @ GRIN Business Development Representative @ Connect Search, LLC Business Development Representative @ Arrive Logistics RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

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Lead Playbook: Fixing Your Pipeline Problem

Lead Playbook: Fixing Your Pipeline Problem

FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS Ensure there is a financial plan that walks through the pipeline conversion assumptions to keep your team and your partnering teams accountable Do not try and fix something that's working in order to compensate for low metrics, look at the indicating metrics and fix those Have Account Executives dedicate 20% of their time to prospecting a set list of walled off (named) accounts Break out your inbound and outbound metrics to make it easier to diagnose the problem if one of those two metrics is falling behind RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

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231 (Sell) Set Yourself Up for Negotiation Success by Crafting Your Business Case Early (Spencer Ivey, Webflow)

231 (Sell) Set Yourself Up for Negotiation Success by Crafting Your Business Case Early (Spencer Ivey, Webflow)

FOUR ACTIONABLE SALES TAKEAWAYS During demos, connect features shown to insights gathered during Discovery. Address confusion promptly and facilitate discussions rather than relying on your Solutions Consultant. Make your effort visible to prospects when working on the business case. Let them know you're actively involved and invite collaboration, which fosters reciprocity. Refine and finalize your business case incrementally. Use the demo to make the case tangible and save detailed financial discussions for the final business case meeting. When negotiating and faced with a request for a discount, refrain from immediate responses. Silence can be powerful as it prompts the prospect to reconsider or elaborate on their request. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Enterprise Account Executive @ Webflow Senior Account Executive @ Webflow Account Executive @ Webflow Senior Corporate Account Executive @ Udemy RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

9 Jul 202439min

Hall of Fame: Stevie Case Ep. 175

Hall of Fame: Stevie Case Ep. 175

FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS Burndown: Every day before the end of the month, make your team put all open deals in a spreadsheet with a two-line update. When you’re rolling out a methodology like command of the message, you can’t stop at the initial training. Every single new product launch needs to be trained in that framework, otherwise, it’s forgotten. Make sure your reps tell you what role you need to play on calls! Your CRO can always freestyle, but they much prefer you tell them what to do. 80% of the upward communications should be focused on the problems you need to solve. Often times your CEO just wants to know that you’re aware of the problems. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB CRO @ Vanta Founding Partner @ 20SALES Founding operator at @ Coalition Postal Vice President, Mid-Market Sales @ Twilio RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

8 Jul 202438min

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