Why Your Discovery Call Isn’t Finding Real Problems | Bite-Sized Tactics

Why Your Discovery Call Isn’t Finding Real Problems | Bite-Sized Tactics

Max Licht (Enterprise AE @ MaestroQA) breaks down his shadow-based discovery process. This technique goes beyond typical discovery calls, allowing you to witness firsthand where inefficiencies and bottlenecks are happening. 1. Identify the Painful Process - Research the customer's current workflow and tools (e.g., Excel, Salesforce) to understand the manual, time-consuming steps involved. - This reveals where inefficiencies exist, giving you a clear picture of the pain your solution can alleviate. It also helps you identify the "drag them through the glass" moments where the pain is most acute, which is critical for building urgency. 2. Set Up the Shadowing Session - Frame the shadow as a collaborative step to fully understand their process. Instead of just making claims, say something like, *“Before I make any promises, I want to fully understand your current reporting process to see where we can add the most value.”* - This approach shifts the focus from selling to problem-solving, making you a trusted partner rather than just a vendor. It also sets the stage for a more meaningful business case. 3. Conduct the Shadow - Watch the prospect use their current tools and processes. Take notes, capture screenshots, and pay attention to friction points, inefficiencies, and workarounds they rely on. - Seeing the workflow in action often reveals unspoken pain points and limitations that even the prospect might not articulate in a standard discovery call. This firsthand observation helps you tailor your pitch to the reality of their day-to-day work. 4. Use Shadows to Build a Business Case - Use the insights gathered to frame your solution as a direct response to the pain points you observed. For example, highlight how your tool eliminates specific inefficiencies, reduces manual steps, or streamlines complex reporting. - This concrete evidence makes your pitch more credible and aligns your solution directly with their business goals, increasing the likelihood of internal buy-in. 5. Follow Up Strategically - After the shadow, summarize your findings in a follow-up email or meeting, highlighting specific pain points you observed and how your solution can address them. Use this to drive urgency and move the deal forward. - This reinforces your credibility as a problem-solver and keeps the conversation anchored in real, observed issues, rather than hypothetical value propositions. 6. Use the Shadow as a Catalyst for Future Conversations - Reference specific pain points in later stages of the sales cycle, using them to frame your solution as a clear, tangible fix for their current frustrations. - This approach keeps the focus on solving their problems, reducing friction in the decision-making process and increasing the likelihood of a successful close. RESOURCES DISCUSSED: ⁠Join our weekly newsletter⁠ ⁠Things you can steal⁠ ⁠Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST”

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3 (Sell): Ripping apart the phones and video (James Bawden, Host of the Lunch Break Podcast, Director @ OutboundView)

3 (Sell): Ripping apart the phones and video (James Bawden, Host of the Lunch Break Podcast, Director @ OutboundView)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Four Actionable Takeaways: Avoid the double intro on the phone if they ask “wait, who’s this?” Just get on with it. Close the cold call with “here’s what happens next” instead of leaving it in their hands Disarm with “I’m not delusional enough to think I’m calling you at the right moment.” Lead your value prop with your customer’s problems instead of the features in your solution James Bawden’s Path to President’s Club: Host, Lunch Break Podcast Director, OutboundView And a damn well-known Linkedin personality RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

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2 (Sell): Negotiating against the master (Mark Raffan, Host @ Negotiations Ninja Podcast)

2 (Sell): Negotiating against the master (Mark Raffan, Host @ Negotiations Ninja Podcast)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Four Actionable Takeaways: Before a negotiation, know YOUR needs / wants + THEIR needs / wants Set expectations upfront that we don’t do end of month discounts before you need to Say the price and shut-up. Don’t try to justify it, it shows insecurity When they ask for discounts, ask probing questions to discover the truth behind the ask. Mark Raffan’s Path to President’s Club: Host, Negotiations Ninja Podcast President, Content Callout Negotiation Master Class, Harvard University RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

12 Mai 202028min

1 (Sell): Discovery without the nonsense chit-chat (Joe Caprio, Cofounder @ Reprise, former VP Sales @ Chorus)

1 (Sell): Discovery without the nonsense chit-chat (Joe Caprio, Cofounder @ Reprise, former VP Sales @ Chorus)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Four Actionable Takeaways: Build rapport by kicking off with PPO (purpose, plan, outcome) instead of chit chat First is best. Rank your top buying signals. The moment you find one, use it and move on. Use situational questions to narrow down the key problem areas in a discovery. Stop finishing sentences for prospects to placate your own insecurities. Let the silence sit. Joe Caprio's Path to President’s Club: Co-Founder, Reprise (today) VP Sales, Chorus VP Sales, InsightSquared RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

12 Mai 202033min

0 (Sell): Five minutes to figure out if this show is worth your time

0 (Sell): Five minutes to figure out if this show is worth your time

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Why in the world would you listen to 30MPC? Four Reasons to Listen: WHAT WE’RE NOT: Not stuck in 1975. Not stuck on fluffy mindset. Only actionable sales tactics. PREPARATION: Recorded for 45 minutes, cut to 30. Some episodes don’t make it. That’s okay. POLAR OPPOSITES: Nick is an Enterprise AE. Armand is a MM Sales Leader. SHOW STRUCTURE: Three actionable tactics at the beginning. The recap email at the end. Four Actionable Tactics How to avoid being forced to demo early Open on the phones by leading with context How to handle the “not interested” email The 3x3 cold email RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

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