132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy15 Maj 2023

64: The Priesthood Ban -- Mormonism's Other Black Eye | 132 Problems: Mormon Polygamy

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NAACP collaboration https://medium.com/@Ch_JesusChrist/locking-arms-for-racial-harmony-in-america-2f62180abf37 Joseph Letter to Oliver Cowdery: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-oliver-cowdery-circa-9-april-1836/1#historical-intro Elijah Abel License: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/license-for-elijah-able-31-march-1836/1 Joseph letter to John Bennett: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/times-and-seasons-15-march-1842/7 Joseph Smith statement to Elder Hyde: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-draft-1-january-3-march-1843/2#full-transcript Joseph Smith presidential platform: https://byustudies.byu.edu/online-chapters/volume-6-chapter-8/ John Taylor, August 28, 1881, Journal of Discourses vol 22 pg 304 Brigham Young response about Enoch Lewis: Turner, John G. Brigham Young: Pioneer Prophet. 2012. Harvard University Press. Pg. 222 Jan 23, 1852 Brigham Young speech: https://archive.org/details/teachingofpresid0003fred/page/26/mode/2up?view=theater Feb 5th. 1852 Brigham Young Speech: https://archive.org/details/teachingofpresid0003fred/page/40/mode/2up?view=theater 1st Presidency statements: https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Mormonism_and_racial_issues/Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Statements Lester Bush paper: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N01_13.pdf Edward Kimball paper: https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3908&context=byusq Joseph Fielding Smith 1860 quote: “The Present Status of the Lamanites Question: "The question I have is concerning the present status of the Lamanites. I know that Laman and Lemuel and their families were cursed, but to what extent is this curse carried today? Was the darker skin all or just part of the curse? Will this curse be completely forgotten and taken away by the Lord on the basis of repentance and complete acceptance of the gospel?" Answer: The dark skin was placed upon the Lamanites so that they could be distinguished from the Nephites and to keep the two peoples from mixing. The dark skin was the sign of the curse. The curse was the withdrawal of the Spirit of the Lord and the Lamanites becoming a "loathsome and filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations." (I Nephi 12:23.) The Lord commanded the Nephites not to intermarry with them, for if they did they would partake of the curse. At the time of the Savior's visit to the Nephites all of the people became united, and the curse and the dark skin which was its sign were removed. “The two peoples became one and lived in full harmony and peace for about two hundred years. There were no robbers, nor murderers, neither were there Lamanites, nor any manner of -ites; but they were in one, the children of Christ, and heirs to the kingdom of God. (IV Nephi, verse 17.) EVIL BROUGHT RETURN OF DARK SKIN After the people again forgot the Lord and dissensions arose, some of them took upon themselves the name Lamanites and the dark skin returned. When the Lamanites fully repent and sincerely receive the gospel, the Lord has promised to remove the dark skin. The Lord declared by revelation that, "before the great day of the Lord shall come, Jacob shall flourish in the wilderness, and the Lamanites shall blossom as the rose." (D. & C. 49:24.) The dark skin of those who have come into the Church is no longer to be considered a sign of the curse. Many of these converts are delightsome and have the Spirit of the Lord. Perhaps there are some Lamanites today who are losing the dark pigment. Many of the members of the Church among the Catawba Indians of the South could readily pass as of the white race; also in other parts of the South.”

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151: Repenting of Polygamy - A Conversation with Steve Baer

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsSteve's podcast, "Latter-day Strength"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/latter-day-strength/id1661691405

5 Jan 1h 48min

150: What Joseph's Family Really Thought -- About POLYGAMY

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsLinks: Original Keystone Video (Please comment and post this response!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozVY0okFvVs T.E. Lloyd quote: http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/MO/Miss1881.htm Joseph's Vision of Alvin (D&C 137): https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/visions-21-january-1836-dc-137/1Hyrum's May 14, 1844 Sermon: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/e8d44719-6577-4503-86b8-1641367be6b9/0/0 Joseph's August 1842 statements about Hyrum and Emma: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/reflections-and-blessings-16-and-23-august-1842/2 Hyrum April 8, 1844 Sermon Transcript: https://web.archive.org/web/20230303190436/https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/transcript/minutes-and-discourses-6-9-april-1844-as-reported-by-thomas-bullock?print=true#6225492112447048673 Testimonies of Joseph Smith's Descendants: https://josephsmithsr.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Testimonies-from-the-Smiths-of-the-Book-Mormon.pdf Copy of Letter to B.H. Stenhouse: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/c875ccf4-42e8-4336-a4a1-608a0e61f880/0/602?lang=eng Katharine's Letter: https://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100704.pdf William Smith 1845 Letter to Orson Hyde: https://warsaw.advantage-preservation.com/viewer/?t=30053&i=t&by=1845&bdd=1840&bm=11&bd=26&d=11261845-11261845&fn=warsaw_signal_usa_illinois_warsaw_18451126_english_1&df=1&dt=2 William Smith 1893 Letter: https://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100207.pdf (pg 423) Lucy Mack Smith Biography: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/lucy-mack-smith-history-1845/5 Scripture Central on Joseph Smith Sr. https://scripturecentral.org/evidence/joseph-smith-sr Katherine Salisbury Testimony: https://olivercowdery.com/smithhome/BroBill/KStestimony.htmJoseph Smith August 16, 1843 Letter to Emma: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-emma-smith-16-august-1842/1

29 Dec 202450min

149: Polygamy, the Cockroach in the Sundae - with Kathy Bence

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsReasons to Rescind YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@katherinebencePolygamy: A Nonsensical Part of the Restorationhttps://www.nonsensicalpolygamyrestored.com/Michael Mathews II's websitehttps://SectionOneThirtyTwo.wordpress.com/Rational Bible explanation of Genesis 3:16https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e2b4646306d0d3f836f157e/t/65e69e36e9d94e3b6e656b50/1709612600550/The+Rational+Bible.pdf

22 Dec 20241h 18min

148: James Whitehead, W. W. Blair, and the Dangers of Cherry-Picking

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsLinks: Orson Pratt, The Seer: https://archive.org/details/seereditedbyorso01unse/page/30/mode/2up Jennie Anderson Froiseth, Women of Mormondom: https://archive.org/details/womenofmormonism00froi/page/110/mode/2up?q=hand 1869 Affidavits (Emily and Eliza Partridge): https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/f73e1f69-32d6-4e09-a2f7-f6eed3bd8316/0/2 Blair's Memoirs: https://www.olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1900s/1908Blair.htmWhitehead Autumn Leaves Sermon: https://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100050.pdfNewspaper Report of RLDS Conference: http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/MO/Miss1881.htm James Whitehead Obituary: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/71a298a9-e364-463b-9c53-176d57d5cd4d/0/2 D Michael Quinn Dialogue Article: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/joseph-smith-iiis-1844-blessing-and-the-mormons-of-utah/#_ftn66Elder Hinckley 1981 Conference Talk: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1981/04/the-joseph-smith-iii-document-and-the-keys-of-the-kingdom?lang=eng William Smith 1845 Warsaw Signal Article: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/f2028077-aba7-46dc-aa11-1adcb48ae348/0/0 RLDS Affidavits, Saints Advocate 1885: https://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100135.pdfJoseph Fielding Smith on Hyrum: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-of-presidents-of-the-church-joseph-fielding-smith/chapter-7-joseph-and-hyrum-smith-witnesses-for-christ?lang=eng

15 Dec 20241h 32min

False Narratives and Weak Sources: Plural Marriage for Children pt 2

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsLink to the Plural Marriage lesson for kids:https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-stories-2025/44-plural-marriage?lang=eng Joseph's anti-polygamy changes to the Bible: 1 Kings 3:14KJV: And if thou wilt walk in my ways, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as thy father David did walk, then I will lengthen thy days.JST And if thou wilt walk in my ways, to keep my statutes and my commandments, then I will lengthen thy days, and thou shalt not walk in unrighteousness as did thy father David.2 Samuel 12:13KJV: And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, The Lord also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.JST: And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, The Lord also hath not put away thy sin that thou shalt not die.1 Kings 11:4 KJV: For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God, as was the heart of David his father.JST: For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, his wives turned away his heart after other gods; and his heart was not perfect with the Lord, his God, and it became as the heart of David, his father.1 Kings 11:6 KJV: And Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, and went not fully after the Lord, as did David his father.JST: And Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, as David, his father, and went not fully after the Lord.1 Kings 11:33KJV: Because that they have forsaken me, and have worshipped [other gods] and have not walked in my ways, to do that which is right in mine eyes, and to keep my statutes and my judgments, as did David his father.JST: Because that they have forsaken me and have worshipped [other gods] and have not walked in my ways, to do that which is right in mine eyes, and my statutes, and my judgments; and his heart is become as David, his father; and he repenteth not as did David, his father, that I may forgive him.

14 Dec 20241h 17min

The Importance of Age Appropriateness and Parental Consent: Plural Marriage for Children pt 1

14 Dec 20241h 15min

147: Integrity and Transparency - A Response to Brian Hales

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsLinks:INTERVIEW NOTES ON BRIAN'S OWN WEBSITE: https://mormonpolygamydocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/JSIII-Inteview-with-Emma-Smith-1879-from-EMD-Vogel.pdf I WISH I had known about this clip to include in the episode. Listen to Shermer's explanation of Joseph Smith's polygamy from 6:10 - 8:00: https://youtu.be/x2qwRJT4WGY?t=370 (This is one of the most cited people in the book -- so apparently who Brian is finding common cause with in his discussion of Joseph's polygamy.)Study referenced: https://communities.springernature.com/posts/experiences-with-open-science-practices?badge_id=nature-human-behaviour Book Review: https://physicsworld.com/a/lee-mcintyre-the-rant-lit-philosopher-whose-angry-new-book-is-peppered-with-flaws-and-contradictions/

8 Dec 20241h 42min

146: Consider Yourself as Eve with Meghan Farner

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsConsider Yourself as Eve: A Guide to Spiritual Development for Women (and the Men Who Love Them), by Meghan Farnerhttps://amzn.to/41e5jCm

1 Dec 20242h 28min

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