122: Narrative vs. Reality -- Whitney, Jeremy & Michelle Discuss Brian Hales - Pt. Two

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems John Hajicek has spent 50 years deeply immersed in early LDS material culture, developing a level of mastery that is very rare. He has acquired over 250,000 artifacts, including books, pamphlets, articles, letters, hymnals, and other physical items from our shared LDS history. It was such a treat to get to hear his incredible insights! You can follow John on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnhajicek/ And at Mormonism.com

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Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Join this deep dive into Joseph's supposed polygamy. It is time! Links: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/128?lang=eng https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/doctrine-and-covenants-1844/422 Voice of Innocence: https://www.churchhistorianspress.org/the-first-fifty-years-of-relief-society/part-1/1-10?lang=eng Hyrum Smith Speech: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/minutes-and-discourses-6-9-april-1844-as-reported-by-thomas-bullock/33#full-transcript Joseph Smith last speech: https://byustudies.byu.edu/online-chapters/volume-6-chapter-19/ (pgs. 408-412) https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/discourse-26-may-1844-as-compiled-by-leo-hawkins/1 James Whitehead Testimony: http://www.olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1880s-1890s/1893_TLot.htm?fbclid=IwAR2fhLQmbHK6Og0rrjhhF8XI-vrW8dv06gLk4AH4Wv-VhbdVJQKzzdB9UoE William Clayton affidavit: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/d091310b-4d88-43dd-a141-bb7ec1579934/0/0 Isn't one wife enough? : Young, Kimball, 1893-1972 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive George Q Cannon quote: Oct 9, 1869, JoD 13:pg 207

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Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems I appreciate Todd Compton sharing his time, training, and insight. I also appreciate his knowledge, honesty, kindness and humilty. http://toddmcompton.com/ https://www.amazon.com/stores/Todd-Compton/author/B001HOF5MG?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

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Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems I loved sitting down again with Whitney Horning, author of Joseph Smith Revealed, A Faithful Telling and Hyrum Smith, A Prophet Unsung. She shares her journey of struggling with the stories of polygamy and working to discover truth, both about polygamy and Joseph Smith. Enjoy!

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Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems So thrilled to have the opportunity to talk to Dr. Julie Hanks. I hope all will benefit from her wisdom, insight, expertise, faith and compassion. I know I did. For further engagement or connection with Dr. Hanks: https://centerforpartnership.org/news-events/partnershipfamiliesjuliehanks/ http://www.partnershipfamilies.com/ https://pubs.lib.umn.edu/index.php/ijps/article/view/100 https://www.drjuliehanks.com/ https://wasatchfamilytherapy.com/

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Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems The current church narrative found in the gospel topics essays is problematic. It is far from comprehensive or transparent, but beyond that, it is not consistent with past church teachings, the historical sources, the scriptures, or many current church teachings and statements from recent leaders. Yet, despite the fact that the things claimed in the essays have not been spoken by leaders, taught in general conference, and certainly not accepted as church doctrine, some claim that church members in good standing may not publicly disagree with them. Let's look at some of the problems with that claim, and just a few of the problems with the narrative -- namely, the claim that reasons for polygamy were never given and that polygamy was not taught to be necessary for exaltation. Sources: Brigham Young, vision, Feb. 17, 1847, in Brigham Young Office Files, 1832–1878, Church History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/content/praise-to-the-man?lang=eng President Nelson quotes: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2018/04/revelation-for-the-church-revelation-for-our-lives?lang=eng https://twitter.com/NelsonRussellM/status/1232682006305103872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1232682006305103872%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thechurchnews.com%2Fleaders-and-ministry%2F2020-02-26%2Fpresident-nelson-restoration-invitation-2020-hearhim-joseph-smith-first-vision-bicentennial-175302 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/inspiration/how-do-you-hearhim-a-special-invitation?lang=eng https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2020/04/45nelson?lang=eng https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/plural-marriage-in-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints?lang=eng https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=eng August 1852 Special Conference, Orson Pratt, pg 14-22, Brigham Young, pg 25-26 https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/NCMP1820-1846/id/17334 Disavowal of Pratt's "First Cause": https://newspapers.lib.utah.edu/details?id=2598412 Brigham Young July 14, 1855 (JoD 3:266) Brigham Young July 6, 1862 (JoD 9:322) Brigham Young August 19,1866 (JoD 11:269) Joseph F. Smith July 7, 1878 (JoD 20:24-31) Scriptures: Moroni 7: 15-16 Raise up seed: 1 Nephi 7:1, Jacob 2:25 - 27 3 Nephi 26:10 Deuteronomy 25:5 Genesis 38

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Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems This one is intense! Please share your thoughts!

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Mark Hofmann, Mormonism's forger and bomber, is perhaps the most infamous member of the church. He also happens to be my cousin. My oldest sister joins me to discuss her experiences growing up with him, and our perspectives on him and his wonderful family. More importantly, she shares her own experiences and revelations about mothering children who go different ways.

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