122: Narrative vs. Reality -- Whitney, Jeremy & Michelle Discuss Brian Hales - Pt. Two

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5 Jan 1h 48min

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsLinks: Original Keystone Video (Please comment and post this response!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozVY0okFvVs T.E. Lloyd quote: http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/MO/Miss1881.htm Joseph's Vision of Alvin (D&C 137): https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/visions-21-january-1836-dc-137/1Hyrum's May 14, 1844 Sermon: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/e8d44719-6577-4503-86b8-1641367be6b9/0/0 Joseph's August 1842 statements about Hyrum and Emma: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/reflections-and-blessings-16-and-23-august-1842/2 Hyrum April 8, 1844 Sermon Transcript: https://web.archive.org/web/20230303190436/https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/transcript/minutes-and-discourses-6-9-april-1844-as-reported-by-thomas-bullock?print=true#6225492112447048673 Testimonies of Joseph Smith's Descendants: https://josephsmithsr.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Testimonies-from-the-Smiths-of-the-Book-Mormon.pdf Copy of Letter to B.H. Stenhouse: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/c875ccf4-42e8-4336-a4a1-608a0e61f880/0/602?lang=eng Katharine's Letter: https://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100704.pdf William Smith 1845 Letter to Orson Hyde: https://warsaw.advantage-preservation.com/viewer/?t=30053&i=t&by=1845&bdd=1840&bm=11&bd=26&d=11261845-11261845&fn=warsaw_signal_usa_illinois_warsaw_18451126_english_1&df=1&dt=2 William Smith 1893 Letter: https://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100207.pdf (pg 423) Lucy Mack Smith Biography: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/lucy-mack-smith-history-1845/5 Scripture Central on Joseph Smith Sr. https://scripturecentral.org/evidence/joseph-smith-sr Katherine Salisbury Testimony: https://olivercowdery.com/smithhome/BroBill/KStestimony.htmJoseph Smith August 16, 1843 Letter to Emma: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-emma-smith-16-august-1842/1

29 Dec 202450min

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsReasons to Rescind YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@katherinebencePolygamy: A Nonsensical Part of the Restorationhttps://www.nonsensicalpolygamyrestored.com/Michael Mathews II's websitehttps://SectionOneThirtyTwo.wordpress.com/Rational Bible explanation of Genesis 3:16https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e2b4646306d0d3f836f157e/t/65e69e36e9d94e3b6e656b50/1709612600550/The+Rational+Bible.pdf

22 Dec 20241h 18min

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsLinks: Orson Pratt, The Seer: https://archive.org/details/seereditedbyorso01unse/page/30/mode/2up Jennie Anderson Froiseth, Women of Mormondom: https://archive.org/details/womenofmormonism00froi/page/110/mode/2up?q=hand 1869 Affidavits (Emily and Eliza Partridge): https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/f73e1f69-32d6-4e09-a2f7-f6eed3bd8316/0/2 Blair's Memoirs: https://www.olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1900s/1908Blair.htmWhitehead Autumn Leaves Sermon: https://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100050.pdfNewspaper Report of RLDS Conference: http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/MO/Miss1881.htm James Whitehead Obituary: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/71a298a9-e364-463b-9c53-176d57d5cd4d/0/2 D Michael Quinn Dialogue Article: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/joseph-smith-iiis-1844-blessing-and-the-mormons-of-utah/#_ftn66Elder Hinckley 1981 Conference Talk: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1981/04/the-joseph-smith-iii-document-and-the-keys-of-the-kingdom?lang=eng William Smith 1845 Warsaw Signal Article: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/f2028077-aba7-46dc-aa11-1adcb48ae348/0/0 RLDS Affidavits, Saints Advocate 1885: https://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100135.pdfJoseph Fielding Smith on Hyrum: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-of-presidents-of-the-church-joseph-fielding-smith/chapter-7-joseph-and-hyrum-smith-witnesses-for-christ?lang=eng

15 Dec 20241h 32min

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsLink to the Plural Marriage lesson for kids:https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-stories-2025/44-plural-marriage?lang=eng Joseph's anti-polygamy changes to the Bible: 1 Kings 3:14KJV: And if thou wilt walk in my ways, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as thy father David did walk, then I will lengthen thy days.JST And if thou wilt walk in my ways, to keep my statutes and my commandments, then I will lengthen thy days, and thou shalt not walk in unrighteousness as did thy father David.2 Samuel 12:13KJV: And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, The Lord also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.JST: And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, The Lord also hath not put away thy sin that thou shalt not die.1 Kings 11:4 KJV: For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God, as was the heart of David his father.JST: For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, his wives turned away his heart after other gods; and his heart was not perfect with the Lord, his God, and it became as the heart of David, his father.1 Kings 11:6 KJV: And Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, and went not fully after the Lord, as did David his father.JST: And Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, as David, his father, and went not fully after the Lord.1 Kings 11:33KJV: Because that they have forsaken me, and have worshipped [other gods] and have not walked in my ways, to do that which is right in mine eyes, and to keep my statutes and my judgments, as did David his father.JST: Because that they have forsaken me and have worshipped [other gods] and have not walked in my ways, to do that which is right in mine eyes, and my statutes, and my judgments; and his heart is become as David, his father; and he repenteth not as did David, his father, that I may forgive him.

14 Dec 20241h 17min

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14 Dec 20241h 15min

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24Patreon.com/132problemsLinks:INTERVIEW NOTES ON BRIAN'S OWN WEBSITE: https://mormonpolygamydocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/JSIII-Inteview-with-Emma-Smith-1879-from-EMD-Vogel.pdf I WISH I had known about this clip to include in the episode. Listen to Shermer's explanation of Joseph Smith's polygamy from 6:10 - 8:00: https://youtu.be/x2qwRJT4WGY?t=370 (This is one of the most cited people in the book -- so apparently who Brian is finding common cause with in his discussion of Joseph's polygamy.)Study referenced: https://communities.springernature.com/posts/experiences-with-open-science-practices?badge_id=nature-human-behaviour Book Review: https://physicsworld.com/a/lee-mcintyre-the-rant-lit-philosopher-whose-angry-new-book-is-peppered-with-flaws-and-contradictions/

8 Dec 20241h 42min

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1 Dec 20242h 28min