132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy

A deep dive into the murky waters of Mormon polygamy.

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97: Temples Part 4 -- The Endowment: Line Upon Line

97: Temples Part 4 -- The Endowment: Line Upon Line

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132Problems Too few of us understand the history and origin of the temple endowment. After watching this episode you will know exactly what sources we use to claim the endowment came from Joseph Smith, instead of Brigham Young. Links: Ongoing Restoration video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKH4vU1EiB4 Brigham Young April 6 1845 Speech Times and Seasons: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/c58aed5c-b5e3-41c8-9006-d776e493ada9/0/9 Andrew Ehat papers: Who Shall Ascend into the Hill of the Lord? (Only available for download, search terms and download papers) Joseph Smiths Introduction of Temple Ordinances: https://archive.org/details/EhatIntroOfTempleOrdinances2 BYU Journal Papers: https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/line-upon-line-precept-upon-precept-reflections-on-the-1877-commencement-of-the-performance-of-endowments-and-sealings-of-the-dead/ https://rsc.byu.edu/vol-20-no-1-2019/line-upon-line-joseph-smiths-growing-understanding-eternal-family#_noteref-87 Elder Bednar Line Upon Line: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/new-era/2010/09/line-upon-line-precept-upon-precept-2-nephi-28-30?lang=eng#title1 Saints Unscripted video: https://youtu.be/glJzMcNWn3c?t=27 Isaiah 28:7-31 Isaiah 56:10 Micah 3:5-7 President Nelson Oct 2021: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2021/10/47nelson?lang=eng#p17 Joseph Smith May 1 1842 sermon (recorded by Willard Richards): https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/discourse-1-may-1842-as-reported-by-willard-richards/1 Joseph Smith June 11 1843 sermon (Wilford RIchards) https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/discourse-11-june-1843-a-as-reported-by-wilford-woodruff/2#full-transcript (Recorded by Eliza Snow) https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/discourse-11-june-1843-a-as-reported-by-eliza-r-snow/1 Joseph Smith April 8 1844 (recorded by Wilford Woodruff): https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/discourse-8-april-1844-as-reported-by-wilford-woodruff/1 May 4 1842 Original Journal Entry (Use these links to go to the 3rd and the 5th): https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/journal-december-1841-december-1842/25 Draft: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-draft-1-january-30-june-1842/13 CHL: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1838-1856-volume-c-1-2-november-1838-31-july-1842/1#full-transcript Heber C. Kimball to Parley P. Pratt letter June 11 1842: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/707c7146-38a5-41e6-98d8-1cad8d89bcc5/0/3 Temple Pro Tempe: https://mds.marshall.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1015&context=lib_faculty Feb 15 1884 Deseret news semi-weekly, Lucius Scovil letter to the editor, page 2 https://books.google.com/books?id=hnlMAAAAIBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_all_issues_r&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=true "Mary Brown Firmage Woodward papers" collection at BYU. https://archives.lib.byu.edu/repositories/ltpsc/resources/upb_mss2650 Joseph Smith Store Daybook: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/joseph-smiths-store-daybook-a-january-july-1842/269 Joseph Smith Jr's Red Brick Store: https://archive.org/details/josephsmithjrsre00laun/page/28/mode/2up L. John Nuttall Journal: https://archive.org/stream/TheJournalOfLJohnNuttall/The%20journal%20of%20L%20John%20Nuttall_djvu.t July 8 1844 Brigham Young letter to Willard Richards: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/58a1b50f-c250-4190-82c8-5123218b6d19/0/1 Saints Chapter 37: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1/37-we-will-prove-them?lang=eng Nauvoo Temple Records: https://user.xmission.com/~research/family/familypage.htm Joel 1-3 James 5:16 2 Kings 22

4 Feb 20242h 52min

96: Temples part 3 -- Angels and Renovations

96: Temples part 3 -- Angels and Renovations

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132Problems Correction! @ 2:19:31 I accidentally say "trillion" instead of "billion" Links: Embrace the Future with Faith, Elder Russell M. Nelson, October 2020 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2020/10/37nelson?lang=eng April 2019 press conference https://www.thechurchnews.com/2019/4/19/23214980/president-nelson-salt-lake-temple-4-year-closure-temple-square-lds-mormon-renovation Temple renovation video - How the Temple Will Survive Earthquakes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvniG1E5AO4&list=PL-2ihKjhqm0WIRVQzgder3oRI3FXZVUUi&index=16 How Firm Our Foundation, Elder Russell M. Nelson, April 2002 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2002/04/how-firm-our-foundation?lang=eng 95 State at City Creek https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-opens-new-meetinghouse-office-tower-salt-lake-city Salt Lake Temple Square Begins Four-Year Renovation (cedar tree) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mToMxCkSfk&list=PL-2ihKjhqm0WIRVQzgder3oRI3FXZVUUi&index=5 132 Problems Episode 37: Zion vs. Polygamy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dDbddD01lE

4 Feb 20242h 27min

95: More Historical Malpractice - Part 2 with Whitney Horning

95: More Historical Malpractice - Part 2 with Whitney Horning

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems Don't miss this one! The second half of my conversation with Whitney Horning. We respond in depth to several recent claims by Don Bradley and others, and demonstrate how to be a polygamy researcher. Stay tuned to the end for more bonus content revealing ongoing unbelievable discoveries. Correction! In the bonus content I refer to the deed to Hyrum as "identical" to the deed to Emma and her children. I should have been more precise. The back side of the deeds are "identical" and there is much overlap on the front side, but the lots on the front side are not exactly the same. This does not in any way affect the conclusion that this deed to Hyrum is devastating to the William Clayton journal and the polygamy narrative, and I will clarify in future episodes, but I wanted to correct the record in the meantime. Whitney Horning - Presentation Slides https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1G-mISIhxUhePkulXm1Lr7zC0R4BcL0k9/edit#slide=id.p1 (Another link to try if the first doesn't work -- please let me know if you can't access) https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nJP2PDONn6DQjsNiwSEoGONhAcdWAiRs/edit#slide=id.p1 Whitney and Michelle on Jacob Isbell's channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMe1agseXbM&t=4s Don Bradley on Ward Radio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2MkycIxZEE&t=2700s Fair Mormon article on Hoffmann forgery D. Michael Quinn included in 1994 https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Question:_Did_Joseph_order_Jonathan_Dunham,_head_of_the_Nauvoo_legion,_to_rescue_him%3F They're Still Doing It video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxVtJvgvHAs&t=2s June 11 Facebook Post https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=Michelle%20Brady%20Stone%20brian%20hales Franklin D. Richards Scriptural Items Notebook pg 38 https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/eb4d0aeb-2c26-4a40-a08a-7a1e8cc0503d/0/37 Hyrum Smith July 12, 1843 Deed https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/deed-to-hyrum-smith-12-july-1843-draft/1 Emma Smith July 12, 1843 Deed https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/deed-to-emma-smith-and-others-12-july-1843-draft/1 * 2:16:12 -- The source for the story of Emma and Joseph weeping together with Clayton serving as their mediator is from William Clayton's extremely problematic July 13, 1843 journal entry.

4 Feb 20242h 26min

94: Historical Malpractice Part 1 - A Conversation with Whitney Horning

94: Historical Malpractice Part 1 - A Conversation with Whitney Horning

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems Whitney and I go through some lesser known sources to discuss and reveal the depth of the historical malpractice we are up against. Whitney Horning - Presentation Slides https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1G-mISIhxUhePkulXm1Lr7zC0R4BcL0k9/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=107370250945340709203&rtpof=true&sd=true (Another link to try if the first doesn't work -- please let me know if you can't access) https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nJP2PDONn6DQjsNiwSEoGONhAcdWAiRs/edit#slide=id.p1 Face to Face with Elder Cook: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/video/2018-09-1000-worldwide-devotional-for-young-adults-a-face-to-face-event-with-elder-cook?lang=eng Hyrum's Jacob 2 Sermon recorded by Levi Richards: Levi Richards papers, 1837-1867; Diaries; Volume 18, 1843 May 14-June 11; Church History Library, https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/e8d44719-6577-4503-86b8-1641367be6b9/0/0

4 Feb 20242h 44min

93: Revisiting Mountain Meadows w/ Barbara Jones Brown

93: Revisiting Mountain Meadows w/ Barbara Jones Brown

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems Barbara Jones Brown, author with Richard Turley of Vengeance is Mine, The Mountain Meadows Massacre and its Aftermath, joins me to discuss this most horrific part of our Utah and LDS history. Brigham's letter: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/99279f54-9c69-41a1-ac5d-e6069f9a2920/0/1701

19 Nov 20231h 13min

92: Temples Part 2 - Salt Lake Temple and Brigham's Priorities

92: Temples Part 2 - Salt Lake Temple and Brigham's Priorities

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132Problems This one is a must watch! I was not prepared for what I learned in this research. Please WATCH TO THE END and please share this episode. It might be the most important one yet. Links: Richard E. Bennett paper: https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/line-upon-line-precept-upon-precept-reflections-on-the-1877-commencement-of-the-performance-of-endowments-and-sealings-of-the-dead/#note-36-backlink Elder Stevenson Conference Talk: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2020/04/28stevenson?lang=eng Joseph Smith teaching: The Latter-day Saints’ Millennial Star 16:89 Orson Pratt restatements: The Latter-day Saints’ Millennial Star 10: 264 Episode 90: Temples Part 1 - From Solomon to Nauvoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKAe3r2yvMI Brigham Young quotes: 1) Deseret News 3:26 The Latter-day Saints’ Millennial Star 15:391, 2) JD 1:277-279, MS 16:241-243, [Complete Discourses of Brigham Young vol. 2, Feb 14. 1853] Complete Discourses of Brigham Young vol 4, June 1 1862 Richard E. Bennet 2nd paper: https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/which-is-the-wisest-course-the-transformation-in-mormon-temple-consciousness-18701898/#footnote-114-backlink Scott C. Esplin paper: https://rsc.byu.edu/tabernacle-old-wonderful-friend/buildings-temple-block-preceding-tabernacle#_noteref-3 Complete Discourses of Brigham Young vol 2, May 5 1855 Complete Discourses of Brigham Young vol 5, Sept 4, 1873, Oct 8, 1876 Complete Discourses of Brigham Young vol 2, Dec. 3 1854 Episode 37: Zion vs. Polygamy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dDbddD01lE Endowment House: https://mds.marshall.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1015&context=lib_faculty Salt Lake Theater: https://rsc.byu.edu/salt-lake-city-place-which-god-prepared/salt-lake-theatre#_noteref-20 Temple Dedication: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/come-let-us-go-up-to-the-mountain-of-the-lord-the-salt-lake-temple-dedication/#_ftnref8 Scriptures: D&C 124:40-42 2 Nephi 28:29-31 D&C 11:24 Helaman 11:23 Jarom 1:4 Alma 26:21-22 Alma 12:9-11 D&C 107:18-19 Mormon 9:7-9. 20 Alma 32:12-16

19 Nov 20232h 2min

90: Temples Part 1 - from Solomon to Nauvoo

90: Temples Part 1 - from Solomon to Nauvoo

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems At last! Temple Episode part 1 Note: It was just brought to my attention that in my ongoing inability to say the right name, I say "Jacob Strang" in this episode, when I am talking about "James Strang." Sigh. Again, as I tell my children, please listen to what I mean, not just what I say LOL Links: Zion Plans: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/plat-of-the-city-of-zion-circa-early-june-25-june-1833/1 Kirtland "Pentecost" accounts: https://byustudies.byu.edu/online-chapters/a-pentecost-and-endowment-indeed-six-eyewitness-accounts-of-the-kirtland-temple-experience/ Orson Pratt quote: The Latter-day Saints’ Millennial Star 10: 264 Elder's Journal, "Font": https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/elders-journal-august-1838/2 Joseph Smith speech -- end of appointed time: https://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100147.pdf William Weeks: https://ensignpeakfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/MHS3.1Spring2002Bennion.pdf David Crockett paper: https://ensignpeakfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/NJ11.2_Crockett.pdf Times and Seasons, January 20 1846: https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/NCMP1820-1846/id/9654 Nauvoo Temple: https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/nauvoo-temple/#:~:text=On%20May%204%2C%201842%2C%20the,the%20Nauvoo%20Temple%20was%20completed. https://rsc.byu.edu/nauvoo-temple-story-faith/dedication-temple#_noteref-5 https://byustudies.byu.edu/online-chapters/volume-7-chapter-38/ Nauvoo temple sealings: https://rsc.byu.edu/nauvoo-temple-story-faith/dedication-temple#_noteref-5 Brigham Young statements of unfinished temple: Journal of Discourses 1:227, 4:42, 18: 304-305, 19:220, Nauvoo temple burned: http://www.strangite.org/Temple.htm#:~:text=Some%20%5BMormons%5D%20will%20get%20their,demand%20that%20it%20be%20insured Scriptures: 2 Nephi 28:24-31 2 Nephi 5:16 Alma 16:13 Alma 13:7-8 (entire chapter) Isaiah 24:5 D&C 95:8 (88:119) D&C 97:10-16, 21 D&C 109:5 D&C 115:8-16 D&C 124:27-48 1 Kings 7:23-25 D&C 128:12-13 3 Nephi 26:9-10 D&C 84:54-58 2 Nephi 19/Isaiah 9 Mosiah 26:30

19 Nov 20232h 1min

89: Polygamy, SRA, and the Law w/ Sgt. Spencer Cannon

89: Polygamy, SRA, and the Law w/ Sgt. Spencer Cannon

Sergeant James Spencer Cannon, Media Relations Officer for the Utah County Sherriff's Office and personal friend, joins me for this very important conversation on some challenging topics. Utah County Attorney David Leavitt has been talking about ritualistic sex abuse suspect for years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVJue-FJr88 Utah County attorney says he’s been wrongly accused of cannibalism https://kslnewsradio.com/1969649/utah-county-attorney-says-hes-been-wrongly-accused-of-cannibalism/

19 Nov 20231h 49min

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