Securing the AI Wild West: A Conversation with Elad Schulman, CEO of Lasso

Securing the AI Wild West: A Conversation with Elad Schulman, CEO of Lasso

The arrival of Generative AI marks perhaps the fastest and most dramatic technological change we've ever experienced, reshaping cybersecurity at a pace most organizations are unprepared for. A recent conversation with Elad Schulman, CEO and Co-Founder of Lasso, reinforced my understanding that organizations must rapidly adapt to this new reality, where threats evolve continuously and at an unprecedented rate.Schulman, a seasoned entrepreneur who founded and sold the cybersecurity company Segasec to Mimecast, emphasized that upon entering the Generative AI world about two years ago, it felt like stepping into a "new Wild West." "You need a new sheriff to catch the bad guys," he noted. This metaphor aptly captures the significant challenge organizations face today as traditional security models, built on static defenses and rigid tools, can no longer handle the dynamic, AI-driven threats.What's particularly striking about this transformation is the aggressive adoption of AI tools by employees themselves, without waiting for formal approvals or clear organizational policies. As Schulman explained, "Employees didn't wait for policy or enforcement; they simply started using these tools because they are extraordinarily effective." Such rapid, unsupervised adoption poses significant security challenges, from sensitive data leaks to exposure to new risks previously nonexistent.Lasso’s approach, under Schulman's leadership, focuses on providing organizations with comprehensive visibility into employees' use of AI tools. Instead of attempting to block the technology, their strategy enables safe and efficient AI adoption. "Security shouldn't prevent usage but enable it," Schulman emphasized. "We must help employees elegantly recover from mistakes rather than just block them."This approach represents a substantial shift from traditional security methods, which typically create user friction, harm productivity, and ultimately lead employees to circumvent policies. Organizations restricting AI usage risk undermining their competitive edge. Conversely, adopting this technology without adequate security exposes them to significant new vulnerabilities.Beyond security challenges, AI also opens new defensive opportunities. At Lasso, AI is employed to provide organizations immediate and active visibility into internal data flows, quickly identify threats, and neutralize them. "We are not just creating another security tool but an entire platform enabling organizations to adopt AI safely," Schulman said.From my perspective, we stand at a critical juncture. AI adoption is no longer optional—it’s already here, fundamentally changing the nature of work and security. Organizations strategically integrating AI within their security frameworks will secure a considerable competitive advantage. Those hesitant to do so will find themselves increasingly vulnerable to attacks leveraging precisely these technologies.As Schulman candidly summarized, "We are still learning as we go. Ignoring these changes simply isn't an option. The technology evolves nearly every week." In my view, this agile, adaptive, and proactive approach is precisely what cybersecurity leaders must adopt immediately.About Michael MatiasMichael Matias is the CEO and Co-Founder of Clarity, an AI-powered cybersecurity startup backed by venture capital firms including Bessemer Venture Partners and Walden Catalyst. Clarity develops advanced AI technologies protecting organizations from sophisticated phishing attacks and AI-generated social engineering threats, including deepfakes. Before founding Clarity, Matias studied Computer Science with a specialization in AI at Stanford University and led cybersecurity teams in Unit 8200 of the Israel Defense Forces. Forbes Israel recognized him early on, naming him to the exclusive 18Under18 list in 2013 and the Forbes 30Under30 list thereafter. Matias authored the book Age is Only an Int and hosts the podcast 20MinuteLeaders.

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The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1156: Ilke Demir: Detecting Deepfakes by Heart

The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1156: Ilke Demir: Detecting Deepfakes by Heart

Ilke Demir’s journey from computational geometry to combating deepfakes began with a question: what makes something truly human? At Intel’s Trusted Media team, she developed FakeCatcher, a tool that detects deepfakes using biological signals like heart rate. In this episode, she unpacks the technical, ethical, and social layers of media trust, explaining why provenance and human perception matter as much as detection. Her insights reveal how defending truth in the AI age isn’t just about better algorithms—it’s about understanding people.

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The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1155: John Sohrawardi: Bridging AI and Humans in Deepfake Detection

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John shares his journey into deepfake detection, exploring the challenge of making AI explainable and trustworthy for users like journalists and law enforcement. He dives into the complexities of interpreting AI results, the limits of current tools, and why human insight remains vital. His work bridges cutting-edge technology with real-world understanding to help navigate evolving digital threats thoughtfully and responsibly.

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The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1154: Shuky Peleg: Beyond the Last Defense

The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1154: Shuky Peleg: Beyond the Last Defense

Shuky Peleg reflects on decades in cybersecurity, from mainframes to AI-driven threats. He explains why employees shouldn’t be the last defense line and explores evolving social engineering tactics. Shuky highlights the growing role of automation, risk scoring, and the need for continuous vigilance in a rapidly changing threat landscape.

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The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1153: Assi Ungar: Secure Humans, Not Systems

The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1153: Assi Ungar: Secure Humans, Not Systems

Assi Ungar shares how a career that began with WordPerfect support evolved into leading global cybersecurity at scale. He reflects on why trusting nothing is now a safety measure, why process beats panic, and how empathy—not fear—is the CISO’s strongest tool. He also explores AI’s double-edged role in modern security and why protecting personal spaces is now just as vital as enterprise systems.

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The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1152: Ori Eisen: Identity‑First Defense

The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1152: Ori Eisen: Identity‑First Defense

Fraud‑investigator‑turned‑entrepreneur Ori Eisen revives the 1990s “nobody knows you’re a dog” cartoon to show how today’s Gen‑AI deepfakes make that joke a board‑level risk. Tracing his path from inventing device‑fingerprinting to launching insured, passwordless logins, he argues identity—not credentials—is the internet’s final perimeter, urging enterprises to gauge every transaction by human‑level risk, from library cards to dam controls.

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The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1151: Dr. Nima Schei: Bio‑Inspired AI Trust

The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1151: Dr. Nima Schei: Bio‑Inspired AI Trust

MD‑turned‑neuroscientist Nima Schei shares how modeling the brain’s limbic system led him from crab‑neuron labs to Guacamole ID—lightweight, continuous desktop authentication—while devising guardrails against deepfakes and MFA fatigue. His bio‑inspired algorithms suggest emotional intelligence in machines can raise trust, cut compute, and free teams in fast‑moving enterprises.

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The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1150: Lucas Hu – Building a Swiss Cheese Security Stack

The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1150: Lucas Hu – Building a Swiss Cheese Security Stack

When Lucas Hu witnessed a deepfake breach his firm’s defenses, he recognized the limits of traditional tooling. Leveraging a decade of ML research and hands-on cybersecurity experience, he pioneered a “Swiss cheese” model—layering email, domain, and behavioral signals—to outsmart evolving phishing and deepfake attacks.

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The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1149: Joshua Crumbaugh - Cognitive Biases: Security’s Edge

The Human Zero Day Series | Ep1149: Joshua Crumbaugh - Cognitive Biases: Security’s Edge

After witnessing a high-stakes breach test turn real, Joshua Crumbaugh shifted from underground hacking roots into marketing strategy, then combined both to pioneer ethical social engineering. At Phish Firewall, he applies behavioral science and AI-powered micro-simulations to train employees in role-specific threat responses and foster a culture of vigilant defense.

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