Divergent States

Divergent States

Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.


Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.


This isn’t a spiritual podcast.
This isn’t a marketing platform.


No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions.


We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes.


Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.


Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy.


If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show.


If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States.


New episodes every two weeks.

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Episoder(42)

Compass Pathways: Independent Media Talks Psychedelic Medicine

Compass Pathways: Independent Media Talks Psychedelic Medicine

In this episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Kabir Nath, CEO of Compass Pathways, and Dr. Steve Levine, Chief Patient Officer, to talk about the future of psychedelic medicine. From FDA appro...

22 Aug 202538min

Paul F. Austin: Mastering Microdosing and Unlocking Human Potential

Paul F. Austin: Mastering Microdosing and Unlocking Human Potential

In this episode of Divergent States, host 3L1T3 and co-host Bryan sit down with Paul F. Austin, founder of The Third Wave and the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. We dive deep into microdosing psychede...

7 Aug 20251h 9min

Amber Capone: The Psychedelics Saving Veterans from PTSD

Amber Capone: The Psychedelics Saving Veterans from PTSD

Amber Capone, co-founder and CEO of Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions (VETS), shares the powerful story of how psychedelic therapy - starting with Ibogaine - helped her husband, Navy SEAL Marcus ...

23 Jul 20251h 16min

William Leonard Pickard - The Acid King, the Rose, and the Return

William Leonard Pickard - The Acid King, the Rose, and the Return

What happens when the most hunted man in psychedelic history walks free and joins us for a conversation? In this deeply reflective episode of Divergent States, I sit down with William Leonard Pickard:...

4 Jul 202552min

Dr. Anne Wagner: Can MDMA Fix a Broken Marriage?

Dr. Anne Wagner: Can MDMA Fix a Broken Marriage?

In this episode, 3L1T3 sits down with Dr. Anne Wagner, clinical psychologist and founder of Remedy, whose research pushes MDMA therapy beyond the individual — into the space between two people. We exp...

23 Jun 20251h 3min

Kyrsten Sinema: Inside the Psychedelic Fast-Track for Veterans

Kyrsten Sinema: Inside the Psychedelic Fast-Track for Veterans

A former U.S. Senator says the federal government is preparing to fast-track psychedelic medicines, especially for veterans with TBI, PTSD, addiction, and treatment-resistant depression. In this conve...

13 Jun 202533min

Kevin Cranford – Behind the Curtain at MAPS: Culture, Communication & Controversy

Kevin Cranford – Behind the Curtain at MAPS: Culture, Communication & Controversy

This week, we sit down with Kevin Cranford, Communications Officer at MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies), to talk about the upcoming Psychedelic Science 2025 conference — wha...

23 Mai 202551min

Tom Feegel: Can Psychedelics Heal the Opioid Crisis?

Tom Feegel: Can Psychedelics Heal the Opioid Crisis?

In this powerful new episode of Divergent States, your hosts 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Tom Feegel—CEO and Co-Founder of Beond, a pioneering Ibogaine clinic based in Mexico, to discuss the unfilter...

7 Mai 202559min

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